Lang-8 is so tiresome. I try to correct every slightly longer message/e-mail before sending it and it takes a long time and is kinda demotivating lately.

Anyone know any easier and faster ways of getting one's grammar or so checked before sending?

In English we have spell-checker on when we type, but this kinda thing would be almost useless in Jap. And I don't know any good programs either.

I wanna be confident in that I won't reinforce incorrect grammar when writing, and also that other people will find my messages easy to read.

Language swap? form a close relationship with a Japanese interested in learning english (throught japanguide.com, lang8 or sharedtalk) and then agree to email each other stuff to correct on a regular basis?

Either that is a Japanese significant other. Can't really see any other way apart from paying someone..

As a general idea, you might find this interesting: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...5#pid92735

Overture's plugin and (hopefully) upcoming reminder plugin stuff has me interested in concepts of o+N at the moment.

And of course there's also KWIC concordancing tools to quickly find examples, e.g. AntConc or GlobeFish's phrase validation and similar web stuff.

Edit: Oops, forgot to mention why I pointed that out, I meant as a general principle to follow, might find stuff kept relatively minimal easier to produce, such as via microblogs/Twitter/etc.

I also mentioned text-to-speech as proofreading in that o+N thread and also: proofreading with textaloud

I also found this, but it has some of the same limitations I found with Globefish (and sadly TaylorDigital's Twitter search seems to be down, but Twitter has improved its Japanese exact phrase searching I think plus there's always Google Realtime): http://twitter.com/#!/ajatt/status/75166456123363328

I like the TTS hotkey thing, didn't know about it.

Realtime and JRek are also promising

I tend to use the Speak Text hotkey more than the Proofreading option (i.e. playing from the background vs. popping up a window and highlighting the text as it reads it), especially for sentences such as in the 8555 DOJG deck, though I think Proofreading can become more appealing when you're dealing with longer texts.