My name's Josh and I'm a translator. I am powerless over my kanji dictionary collection and equally powerless over my kanji addiction. As I have finished a translation project I am going to complete the kanji Gold computer program and film myself doing it. I already know the readings of 3000 or so kanji in English and think just under 6000 is a good milestone.

I have filmed myself completing the first 6 grades of kanji gold and have uploaded the videos to Triond. Would anyone have a problem with me posting the videos on this thread?

I get a fraction of a cent for every click and my aim is more to show off my achievement than make money. I aim to have all of grade eight and grade nine up on triond in the next month and am working on the fearsome grade 0. The fact that grade 8 isn't up yet is more down to my computer literacy than my kanji prowess.

Josh

It's quite obvious you're a fraud trying to make money by spamming this forum, but I have to ask - how are these videos supposed to be of any use to anyone.

I am not trying to spam the forum but I don't think anyone has ever made a video of a completed kanji gold and I think that is impressive. I will post the next videos of grade eight and as I said will aim to have the whole thing finished by the end of the forum. I have skill at reading kanji and just want to post the videos to prove myself.

Do you know anyone who has finished kanji gold?

Why do you call me a fraud? The videos prove I can read a thousand kanji.

Do we get a chance to win a free iPod?

lol I don't know but I will post the next videos and show I beat kanji gold. I will show I can recognise just under 6000 kanji in English: Can you do that?

I don't think the real issue is that you are making money off of views. But instead like Jimmy asked, how is this supposed to help potential viewers? I'm not sure what can be learned by watching someone else go through Kanji.

HonyakuJoshua Wrote:Why do you call me a fraud? The videos prove I can read a thousand kanji.

You claim to be a translator, yet a thousand kanji is not enough to be a translator. Your use of the -kyuu suffux also demonstrates you don't have the knowledge that a translator would typically have.

HonyakuJoshua Wrote:I am not trying to spam the forum but I don't think anyone has ever made a video of a completed kanji gold and I think that is impressive.

Even if it is impressive, why would anyone want to watch not one, but nine whole videos of this?

I just wasted 10 seconds of my life watching a bit of one video.

What a waste of time!

@Jimmy 海豹 but would just less than 6000 be enough? I need videos for proof because no one has ever done this. Where did I misuse the Kyuu suffix?

The biggest question, is why do we care, I guess. You don't really need to "show off" because we're not really here to see whose thing is bigger than anyone else's. We're here to learn, not to brag.

So. Yeah. Not really impressed, sorry.

ok I am going to edit the videos out of my first thread and post in this thread when I have videos of me finishing kanji gold: I will then start giving advice on the forum. If anyone questions me I will point to this thread.

Josh

You can read a thousand kanji? I'd hope that everyone on the forum who has finished RTK1 and spent a few months studying Japanese can intimately recognize, produce, write, and recall a reading or two or three for at least 2042 kanji, along with words and grammar.

Congratulations on accomplishing something if it's important to you, but personally I would've recommended spending that time on learning Japanese rather than 6000 kanji. But if you have the extra time and energy to do both, more power to you. Except I'm unclear what you mean by ‘read in English’.

At any rate, I'm not really down with people joining this forum not to contribute as a person, but just to make money/get hits/etc., thinking that simply because it's Japanese related we're willing to become cogs in their work-from-home machine or whathaveyou, but if you're going to interact with people as a member, that's cool, though I won't be clicking any of your links myself, unless I feel like there's something useful there, or I want to give back to your contributions in some way (since I know there's money involved, however miniscule you say).

You're probably better off posting this in a kanji gold forum if that exists... I don't think it's particularly popular here.

Maybe doing it with kanken would be better, but even so, watching someone doing that wouldn't be very interesting for most people.

OK then I will upload the links onto YouTube who don't pay money. The only reason why I used triond is because I have a dongle and I can't upload to Youtube with a dongle. It seems to be easier to upload to Triond. I will use a friend's broadband internet and upload to YouTube. I'm not here to make money I just want to showcase that 2000 kanji are easy to learn and that Kanji Gold is possible to beat.

I hope by making such a boastful claim I will cause other people to study kanji more diligently.

When I say reading in English I mean look at a Japanese character like 蛸 and reading out octopus in English. An image/kanji enters my mind and an English word comes to my lips.

I hope to both impress and encourage by posting a video of myself recognising nearly 6000 kanji. If were a beginner and you heard of someone getting nearly 6000 kanji correct would it inspire you?

HonyakuJoshua Wrote:When I say reading in English I mean look at a Japanese character like 蛸 and reading out octopus in English. An image/kanji enters my mind and an English word comes to my lips.

So you understand the broad meaning of the kanji, but you won't be able to read or use the kanji/word in context because you have no idea on how it is read. Isn't the whole point of learning Japanese to be able to communicate in and understand Japanese?

HonyakuJoshua Wrote:@Jimmy 海豹 but would just less than 6000 be enough?

Yes, about 3000 would be plenty.

Quote:Where did I misuse the Kyuu suffix?

-kyuu is for labelling levels of expertise, with 1 being the highest (most advanced). You used it the opposite way, by labelling the lowest level as ikkyu.
Also, 二級 is nikyu(u), not nikkyu.

Come back when you've done the whole 6000.

I still won't care, due to the fact that knowledge of 6000 kanji (where "knowledge" is defined as an english meaning lol) is nothing more than a parlour trick. Even less impressive than the guys who memorise pi to thousands of digits. I'd be way more impressed if, you know, you actually spoke japanese.

But at least you won't come off as someone who thinks they're awesome because of what they're planning to do.

Trying to showcase that 2000 kanji are easy to learn here is a waste of time. We already know that. I believe the record here is like 3 weeks. Most of the regular posters on this forum know more than 2000 kanji and know them in the sense of actually knowing *japanese words* that contain those kanji.

Nobody has ever done this? I think there's a metric shit ton of people in china that will tell you your wrong. let alone all the people that pass Kanken 1 every year. But you know they aren't people like us so i guess you're right.

(sarcasm)

Well, in all fairness, I don't think there is a sh-- ton, metric or otherwise, of people who have gone through the entire kanji gold program, specifically.

I guess its no different than people who do a perfect run through some challenging video game or something. Kinda neat.

自慢大会って格好悪～所謂「dick move」だね

Thank you Jimmy: Nobody to my knowledge has ever filmed a completion of this program. This is what I hope to do.

Thank you Zarxrax I hope my videos will inspire. I hope they are kinda neat


@sendaidan: I am learning kanji not Japanese.


@Zigmonty how do you know this is a record: can they prove it? Do they have evidence?

I will say nothing more on this thread until I have posted the videos on YouTube or another non-pay-per-click site.

Josh

HonyakuJoshua Wrote:@sendaidan: I am learning kanji not Japanese.

See, it'd be a lot more impressive if you learned anything other than simple, basic English translations that will probably hinder you later on. Learn about 2k, then move onto "real" Japanese.

I use the english meanings to aid my learning of writing the character but feel more accomplished as I fill in the gaps with readings and meanings. The more I see kanji and words I can now read the better I feel. If i see a kanji that i know how to write and have an english meaning, I feel nothing. If I see a kanji that I don't know I feel the need to either unsuspend or add to my anki deck (with english and japanese word i found it in).

I don't know if it's like that for everyone but based on some of the responses this seems accurate. Your accomplishment is great as a feat but I guess I'm jealous I can't write 6000 characters yet and don't want someone saying I'm awesome look at me. Mainly because you haven't added value with your post.

he posted his first 7 posts in this thread.

he's trying to defend himself saying, "i will inspire you".

we watch it so you get money? no thanks.

on youtube? fine.