I srs from (Keyword + Sample japanese word w/o kanji) -> Kanji.

Like:

Faith (●じる、　●頼）　　　＞　　信　　（信じる、　信頼）　


Is this ok? Ive been doing this for ~1000 kanji so far, but have not been doing from kanji>keyword... is that OK? I also use a pen and paper for this method to write "Shinjiru" and so forth... is that ok?

Sounds absolutely fine to me. As far as I understand it, you're only supposed to be going from the keyword to the kanji anyway.

As far as using pencil and paper, I've covered more than a few sheets with my practice writing - sometimes low tech is still the best way!

Kanji to Keyword is a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to your learning - you're doing it perfectly

zachandhobbes Wrote:Kanji to Keyword is a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to your learning

How so?

From classes I could read a lot of the Kanji I was suppose to be able to write but when it came time for the test I'd get them wrong because I haven't practiced to write them. So pen and Paper is your best friend and Graph paper should become your lover.

Kanji > keyword : I tried it for the first 250 but gave up on its usefulness because it was interfering with my reviews keyword >Kanji. I would fail going Kanji > keyword but then get the same card correct keyword >kanji because i just failed it. And also I don't want to develop an english tie to the kanji while reading and also most of the Kanji that I have reviewed for a while (mature) I can get the english meaning easily if I wanted it but still usually don't. I get a kinesthetic feel for Kanji when I read it and don't think much past that.

@OP:
Your method actually seems superior to standard RTK method, so kudos to you. You're getting vocabulary and readings while learning to write and recognize. How long have you been doing RTK? do you find adding vocab in this manner is slowing you down?

I use FinalFantasy6Forever's Anki deck "RTK-Ultima". (I really reccomend this deck to anyone who starts RTK with SRS because its basically a mix of a bunch of various other decks).

It has all the fields pre-filled (originally from other various decks) so it has everything I wanted. The sample words are already there without the meanings, so I use firefox to review and use rikaichan to mouse over if Im curious about the words.

Im glad that keyword->Kanji + sample words is working fine. Ive started in December 2010 the day after JLPT and I hope that I can finish it. Somedays I do 5 new words, some days i do 25 with a cup of Georgia coffee. Its working fine, but i hope that this is the best way to learn, and later get into read-read-read with 小説 books.

Thanks so much for your feedback!

zachandhobbes Wrote:Kanji to Keyword is a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to your learning - you're doing it perfectly

Except, you know, you do this every time you read any Japanese text that has kanji in it.

I don't. I look at kanji and hear Japanese, not English.

wildweathel Wrote:I don't. I look at kanji and hear Japanese, not English.

We're talking people who are still doing the keywords and probably don't know all the readings of all the kanji they read.

I'm doing it like this (http://www.imagebanana.com/view/k5hg7n1p/Unbenannt.PNG) right now. I recognised the that the more reps I do I get to know the kanjis actively more and more, same with the whole vocab and sentence construction. What do you think, animehunter123?

Hi Torikun,

Your image is cool. It looks awesome!



RTK-Ultima is my favorite deck because it is a compound mixture of other decks and has the blank-fill in's to help you get accustomed to the words containing the target kanji! Check it out It also has stories.






Here is the information about RTK-Ultima Anki Deck:


Title: RTK-Ultima
Tags: RTK
Size: 1454.34KB

RTK-Ultima
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3007 Heisig Kanji (with Examples! Black Background!)

This information was gathered from the kore.txt and other decks to be combined into the "Ultima" deck. Kore.txt is available on the ankisrs.net website. I used franki to replace and add new fields to the original 3007 deck, and shared it here for everyone to have for convenience!

I chose the name "Ultima" for FF6 Reference

Here are the "Ultima" fields of this deck:
*Kanji: 暦
*HeisigKeyword: calendar
*KanjiMeaning: calendar, almanac
*Onyoumi: レキ (Notice, these fields are separate!)
*Kunyoumi: こよみ、りゃく
*Example-Maru: 西◯, 還◯, ◯
*Example-full: 西暦, 還暦, 暦
*Story: "Years-Months-Days: It takes many years for a cliff to form or erode. A tree takes many months to grow. But days pass by regularly - so in this way, we see the movement of time such as with a CALENDAR."
*Story2: "This is just a picture of a wall calendar with a page for each month. The bottom half has the grid of days, the top half has a pretty picture of a forest this month. The cliff radical here is the top and left edges of the paper. You can see the paper curling up at the lower left where a breeze is trying to turn the page."



Try out this deck! I think its really good! Its also with a black background and looks nice on a monitor or ipod!

Cheers!

Hmm that deck (Rtk - Ultima) looks Hot!!! I got excited just looking at it but I already am 1756 deep into the basic deck... That looks nice though.

kitakitsune Wrote:

zachandhobbes Wrote:Kanji to Keyword is a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to your learning

How so?

KMDES Wrote:

zachandhobbes Wrote:Kanji to Keyword is a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to your learning - you're doing it perfectly

Except, you know, you do this every time you read any Japanese text that has kanji in it.

Don't try to start anything, there's a perfectly fine search feature you can use.

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=3247
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=1736