Stansfield123 Wrote:Or, if that's too much of a hassle, parallel read. Buonaparte's thread has plenty of resources for that, including audiobooks. This page also has some links that still work, I think: http://rtkwiki.koohii.com/wiki/AudiobooksDoes that actually work? Whenever I watch something with subtitles for example, I always just read the subs and tune out the audio. I don't know if parallel reading would help very much with listening.
2014-10-19, 3:16 pm
2014-10-19, 5:18 pm
My current experiment in Japanese through dramas requires 3 things: anki (ankisrs.net), the addon yomichan (https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/934748696), the addon Japanese example sentences (https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2413435972), an application for ripping the audio from your dramas (http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/) and drama transcripts from Drama Note (http://www.dramanote.com/)
1)Watch the drama without subs.
2)Put the transcript into yomichan, setting up a new deck with a custom card type with fields for Expression, Reading, Meaning and Examples.
3)Automatically create cards as you read the vocab of the key unknown words (try not to just pick everything because I ended up with 350 cards for 1 episode, which wasn't fun)
4)Learn the vocab (by learn I mean go through it once in anki)
5)Listen to the audio ripped from the drama using the free video converter while doing something mindless to cement what you've learnt in your brain.
6)Watch the next episode and repeat and keep reviewing.
1)Watch the drama without subs.
2)Put the transcript into yomichan, setting up a new deck with a custom card type with fields for Expression, Reading, Meaning and Examples.
3)Automatically create cards as you read the vocab of the key unknown words (try not to just pick everything because I ended up with 350 cards for 1 episode, which wasn't fun)
4)Learn the vocab (by learn I mean go through it once in anki)
5)Listen to the audio ripped from the drama using the free video converter while doing something mindless to cement what you've learnt in your brain.
6)Watch the next episode and repeat and keep reviewing.
2014-10-19, 8:05 pm
@kameden
If you happen to read and listen the first time you work through the text then I agree - getting better with listening will be on the slow side.
OTOH, if your cycle is like:
1) listen only (and try to understand)
2) listen and read (possibly couple of times. You still will be missing bits here and there...)
3) re-listen (hopefully with 100% comprehension)
then you will notice improvements.
@Helena4
350 cards from one episode in one week is like: 350 / 7 = 50 new cards a day.
Doing 50 new cards a day can quickly turn into Anki nightmare...
If you happen to read and listen the first time you work through the text then I agree - getting better with listening will be on the slow side.
OTOH, if your cycle is like:
1) listen only (and try to understand)
2) listen and read (possibly couple of times. You still will be missing bits here and there...)
3) re-listen (hopefully with 100% comprehension)
then you will notice improvements.
@Helena4
350 cards from one episode in one week is like: 350 / 7 = 50 new cards a day.
Doing 50 new cards a day can quickly turn into Anki nightmare...
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2014-10-19, 9:56 pm
I'd be extremely happy with 350 cards from one episode - it means less time between having to dick around with making new cards (assuming doing a set number a day rather than one-episode-a-week or something).
@kameden:
I've always thought the idea of that was to read the Japanese transcript while listening to the audio, and using the English text just as a reference.
@kameden:
I've always thought the idea of that was to read the Japanese transcript while listening to the audio, and using the English text just as a reference.
2014-10-20, 7:46 am
Aikynaro Wrote:@kameden:I wasn't talking about English. If I have both Japanese audio and text, like subtitles for example, I tend to read the text and tune out the audio.
I've always thought the idea of that was to read the Japanese transcript while listening to the audio, and using the English text just as a reference.
2014-10-21, 10:01 am
Learning exclusively with authentic video
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/for...PN=1&TPN=1
He wants to learn Chinese.
Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/for...PN=1&TPN=1
He wants to learn Chinese.
Stultorum infinitus est numerus.
Edited: 2014-10-21, 10:02 am
2014-10-23, 8:19 am
Hey buonaparte you seem to be really into the reading and listening at the same time thing, do you mind going a little bit into your experience with it? Or is it posted somewhere on the site already? Just wondering how effective it was, thanks.
