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yomichan: a tool for reading books with Anki vocab deck integration

You can replace the dictionary in the data directory with another dictionary if you like, and it will work Smile Yomichan currently uses the exact same dictionary format so it should work (I assume it's just a different dictionary for Rikai, I don't have Firefox installed anymore).
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FooSoft Wrote:You can replace the dictionary in the data directory with another dictionary if you like, and it will work Smile Yomichan currently uses the exact same dictionary format so it should work (I assume it's just a different dictionary for Rikai, I don't have Firefox installed anymore).
Can yomichan work in reverse? IE can we read documents in English with it and pick words to srs E->J?
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@FooSoft - Are you using Chrome? Have you tried that vertical text reader extension thingy? http://www.lifehacker.jp/2011/05/110530a...eader.html

Edit: Ahha! I knew someone had linked it earlier: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...#pid139292

Not nearly as cool as the standalone 縦書き stuff we explored in the JNF thread, but it's nice to see the browser support coming along.
Edited: 2011-06-14, 9:13 am
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Thank you FooSoft, for this wonderful add-on. I've been using it every day!

Though, today I realized I've encountered some kind of problem. (Background info: I started adding facts using Yomi and Anki since April 27, and the last time I added facts was June 13.) Even when I add new facts, they don't show up. It stays at 381 facts.

So basically I can't add new facts anymore.

Is there some kind of fact limit? An error? I'm really confused because I love this addon but something's wrong. Could this be an error associated with Anki?

Thank you very much!
Edited: 2011-06-16, 3:36 pm
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Ah, sorry for the slow replies guys, been a busy week =\

@nest0r
Ooh, I am indeed using Chrome. I'll definitely have to check out the vertical text stuff, looks awesome Big Grin

@Oniichan
Yomichan can't work E->J without modification since English would require completely different code for deinflection and basically anything else language specific.

@moomoox2
That's really strange! I would double check your options and make sure that your model is set up correctly. Also, are you sure that the facts are not actually being added? Some of the counters in Anki are bugged (like the one in the status bar) and don't update immediately. If nothing else works you could try to delete your preferences and re-set up everything. There hasn't been a single day that I haven't used Yomichan at least a little bit and I've never seen this problem, so I really wonder what it could be!
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FooSoft Wrote:@tori-kun
Hmm, but you already decide what words you want to see right? Like so if you know a word and don't want to see it then don't click on it Wink Not sure I follow.
As far as the word learning order, I've thought about that for a while too. Would be a fun experiment for sure!

@nest0r
Yes, we will create the ultimate application! You will automatically learn like 500 kanji just from running it for the first time Big Grin
Maybe you can combine Yomichan with overture's plugin and input/select text and have the plugin calculate/display/format/use the unknown words?

Perhaps you could factor in the sentence glossing thing too, but in a more expanded way similar to Translation Aggregator (which scan the clipboard for any bit of up to 500 characters or something like that).
Edited: 2011-06-19, 5:03 pm
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Thanks for this awesome plugin, its incredible how quickly I can mow through Harry Potter compared to using a normal book. I start to think that books as a medium will become obsolete because of how static they are. Besides reading you can't do anything more, compare that to Yomichan or Kindle with its built in dictionary (almost the same functionality sans adding words to SRS), possible wiki annotations, pictures etc. and there is really hard to find an argument in favor of books except nostalgia and habit.

Quick question, is there some kind of bookmark functionality in Yomichan that I can use to remember where I left off? I imagine a simple highlighted row and a link to that would do the trick.

Also did you think about making a reader app like Yomichan (I'm sure its no problem to tie it with Ankidroid given the architecture of Android with its intents) for Android/Honeycomb? Those tablets are dropping in price quite fast and as much as I love my new Fusion netbook/notebook it would be even more awesome to use Yomichan on a tablet.
Edited: 2011-07-04, 9:19 am
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Glad you like it thurd! I'm having to read 1Q83 book 3 now in paper form because I couldn't find a text file for it, and it's so much slower than using Yomichan Sad

In terms of bookmarking, Yomichan has kind of an implicit bookmarking thing going on, where it remembers the last position you scanned over and loads your view centered (or close to centered on it). It's not perfect, but worked pretty well I think.

In terms of Android support, I am totally doing that when I get an android device. Right now I have an iPod touch for doing Anki reviews, but I hate it so much (iPod, not Anki), so as soon as the Samsung Galaxy Player (Android iPod competitor) comes out, I'll switch up to that and start hacking stuff away on it. I'm definitely very interested in having tool-assisted reading on a mobile device.

Even better, from what I've read you can actually do stuff in python on Android!
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thurd Wrote:Besides reading you can't do anything more, compare that to Yomichan or Kindle with its built in dictionary (almost the same functionality sans adding words to SRS), possible wiki annotations, pictures etc. and there is really hard to find an argument in favor of books except nostalgia and habit
...and better eyesight
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jettyke Wrote:
thurd Wrote:Besides reading you can't do anything more, compare that to Yomichan or Kindle with its built in dictionary (almost the same functionality sans adding words to SRS), possible wiki annotations, pictures etc. and there is really hard to find an argument in favor of books except nostalgia and habit
...and better eyesight
Is there a significant difference between a typical book and eInk displays regarding eye strain? Since we stopped using CRTs, I think even a typical LCD display isn't a problem for our eyes. The problem with "computers" damaging eyesight lies in long periods of looking at the same "depth" and books have exactly the same problem.
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ah yeah, kindle is probably with eInk.
Then you're totally right.

Still it would be good if something would be invented for not looking at the same depth level for a long time or something.
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jettyke Wrote:ah yeah, kindle is probably with eInk.
Then you're totally right.

Still it would be good if something would be invented for not looking at the same depth level for a long time or something.
You could look out a window Tongue
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pudding cat Wrote:
jettyke Wrote:ah yeah, kindle is probably with eInk.
Then you're totally right.

Still it would be good if something would be invented for not looking at the same depth level for a long time or something.
You could look out a window Tongue
The sunlight hurts my eyes. Cool
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Splatted Wrote:
pudding cat Wrote:
jettyke Wrote:ah yeah, kindle is probably with eInk.
Then you're totally right.

Still it would be good if something would be invented for not looking at the same depth level for a long time or something.
You could look out a window Tongue
The sunlight hurts my eyes. Cool
I can agree with that...little Northwest Houseplant here. We all die under sun.
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I just noticed my Yomichan doesn't handle Kana very well. Meaning completely ignores kana-only words in deck lookup and doesn't display that little plus at all (just noticed that the first page screens have them Smile). Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? Everything seems to be set-up correctly: expression, reading, meaning and sentence go into correct fields in my deck. Mecab seems to be working fine, I really have no clue.
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Oh yeah, that's an annoying bug that I have fixed locally but not updated. Just disable the expression grouping and it will show up (I believe it's disabled by default). I believe the bug caused kana-only vocab to not show up.
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nohika Wrote:
Splatted Wrote:
pudding cat Wrote:You could look out a window Tongue
The sunlight hurts my eyes. Cool
I can agree with that...little Northwest Houseplant here. We all die under sun.
I prefer to think of myself as a vampire, but I guess houseplant works too.
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FooSoft Wrote:Oh yeah, that's an annoying bug that I have fixed locally but not updated. Just disable the expression grouping and it will show up (I believe it's disabled by default). I believe the bug caused kana-only vocab to not show up.
Disabled it, restarted Anki and it got worse, now kana-only words aren't displayed at all Smile

でも gives me only 出 and 出る.
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Been off the forum lately,
there is no japanese monolingual yomichan yet, right?

Just because I get so many unfamiliar english words as definitions that it makes understanding very difficult in those cases. Sometimes I use yomichan without net, which means that I can't look up English words.
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Is Yomichan still developed? I thought another release (that bug we talked about) was just around the corner Smile

Anyway here is my list of features I'd like to see:

1. Virtual bookmark (still), just allow us to make a virtual line from a context menu/shortcut (its really hard to remember where I was exactly in a kanji wall especially after a while, Yomichans centering is nice as backup but it cannot know where my eyes were on the page I'm reading) and save its position to database/file based on text file name (so it would support multiple files at once).

2. Ability to open new Yomichan window/text from clipboard, so I can just ctrl-c something interesting on the web and read it in Yomichan with one click.

and the following bugs fixed:

1. Anki is maximized, Yomichan starts at weird position and is not maximized (desktop shortcut also induces this behavior no matter what I've set up earlier).
2. That bug mentioned earlier.
3. Yomichan is minimised (to do stuff in Anki, by accident, to look at another window, shortcut to desktop) and definitions window just disappears, have to turn it on again.

Small bugs but really getting on my nerves the more I'm using this tool.
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It'd be great bonus if you'll add little box next to +'s where ppl can write their own description in their own language (english is not my native unfortunately). It could help doing native lang <-> japanese cards in anki Wink

With that, plugin will be perfect.
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Yeah, Yomichan is still being developed... albeit very slowly. I use it pretty much every day, but have been just too busy with Japanese to fix some of the annoyances you are talking about Smile

I have some local diffs that I have just been slowly adding in but haven't done a proper release. Coding stuff takes too much time now and then >_<
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Actually there is no polish-japanese dictionaries so i'd glad if you rethink my propose (english-japanese dictionares are propably the most accurate ones so it'd be better imo if anyone could translate phrase in their native while adding to cardbase).

And again, plugin is awesome Smile
Edited: 2011-09-01, 12:12 pm
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Excellent tool. It took me a while to figure out why files couldn't load. Changing the text in the "File was unable to load" dialog box to something like "File was unable to load. Make sure the file and folder names only contain A-Z and 0-9 (+ whatever other symbols are supported)" might be useful for first-time users of your excellent plugin.
Since this seems to be the place to suggest features, I thought I might chime in with my features wish-list:
Unsuspend: Ideally, you would be able to customize which field in the deck is the Expression field, or you could just use the field called "Expression". When you add a card from a dictionary lookup in Yomichan, and a card with that Expression already exists in the deck, you'd be able to setup Yomichan to automatically unsuspend that card or add a PriorityHigh or PriorityVeryHigh tag. That would be quite useful if you're using the corePLUS massive vocab deck as your main vocab deck but want to prioritize words based on what you come across while reading.
Kanji deck cross-reference: I have no idea if this feature is possible to implement or not, but here goes: When there's a kanji in a card that I'm not quite sure about the keyword to, I add that kanji and its keyword to the "meaning" or equivalent field. It'd be quite useful if Yomichan could, for each new created card, cross-reference each character with the "kanji" field of an RTK or other type of kanji deck, and output the original dictionary lookup word with characters that exists in your kanji deck substituted for their keywords, in a separate field. For exaxmple, if you add the dictionary lookup 読み方, it would output "[READ] み [DIRECTION]" (with the み remaining unchanged because it didn't exist in the kanji deck) in a separate field in the newly created card. Another example: Let's say that 説 is a rare and obscure not-even-jinmeiyou kanji that you don't have in your kanji deck. 一般小説 would then be output as "[ONE] [CARRIER] [SMALL] 説".

Thanks for your time Smile
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New version released, yay. Lots of bugfixes. Good to get those out there before adding new stuff.

Btw, I've switched to using GitHub for yomichan instead of Google Code, so if you are feeling adventurous you can clone the dev branch later...

https://github.com/FooSoft

Also, if you guys could add feature requests and bug reports on the GitHub page Yomichan, it would make tracking issues much easier <3
Edited: 2011-10-08, 8:46 pm
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