It would be a good deed indeed if somebody made a mirror of the site.
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/

Should you happen to want to share something with me, please go to
http://uztranslations.net.ru, register (it’s free, you’ll have to activate your account) and send a PM to kuroneko. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Would you be able to extract all the example sentences english-japanese from wordreference.com/ ?

arnaldosfjunior Wrote:Would you be able to extract all the example sentences english-japanese from wordreference.com/ ?

I'm sure you could do it yourself - as in, you know:
a) get the right skills (I know, that takes time and effort), then
b) put those skills to use (yes, I know, this takes time and effort too) and then
c) post the results on the internet (are you saying this takes time and effort as well?)

Or maybe you would think about your request before asking somebody else to put theirs time and effort for your benefit?

Tab-delimited Bilingual Sentence Pairs


Download the "japanese-english.zip". It contains +29,000 sentences added to Tatoeba.org by native Japanese speakers. Add them to Anki, and browse them there "enter a word -be it Japanese or English- and the search will only show sentences that have that word". There should be a way to open them in Excel/Open Office or a software of the sort...
Instructions are on the page linked-to above

I had no idea that she passed last year. I'm so sorry.

Thanks for keeping these resources up. Even if no one says it enough, it's very much appreciated. And it's certainly not in vain. I developed a new love for reading when I decided to learn Japanese, and I have nephews and nieces that I'm trying to pass that same love of reading to right now.

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buonaparte Wrote:It would be a good deed indeed if somebody made a mirror of the site.
http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/

Should you happen to want to share something with me, please go to
http://uztranslations.net.ru, register (it’s free, you’ll have to activate your account) and send a PM to kuroneko. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Give wget some time...

OLD: http://tiny.ly/HTFM
NEW: http://rawtoast.gaia.feralhosting.com/mi..._mountain/

Mmm... the wget failed in a few directories, e.g. NHK library Texts, going to have to get those per directory

The only files missing are the Core 2k audio files, which are missing on your site too Such as this one: http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_m.../09467.mp3

On reflection, I think I'll have to move this to another server and do the apache installation correctly. It's piggybacking from another available site, which is not ideal. In addition, the server is more CPU/RAM heavy than space, so I have a better place for this. I've begun the process on the second link, marked as 'NEW', give it some time...

Not to distract the thread too much, but it there a practical way for someone to mirror the site, or at least save some of the content for people to use in case the users.bestweb.net site where to go offline, for someone on limited bandwidth, using a low powered computer such as a laptop?

Offering these files via means of file sharing websites is the best I can do with this broken computer literacy.

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uisukii Wrote:Not to distract the thread too much, but it there a practical way for someone to mirror the site, or at least save some of the content for people to use in case the users.bestweb.net site where to go offline, for someone on limited bandwidth, using a low powered computer such as a laptop?

This mirror automatically updates every week from the users.bestweb.net site:
http://rawtoast.eurybia.feralhosting.com..._mountain/

If you want them locally, on linux (I guess on a Mac too) you can use:

wget --mirror -w 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/

The -w 2 adds a two second delay between each attempt to get a file, this lowers the chance of the webhost blocking your connection. On windows there probably is an application to do this, or you can try cygwin to run the linux commands.

On a limited bandwidth connection, I'd use wget but only for a subfolder so you have some control. The entire site is somewhere around 18GB.

You could use reject on wget to block downloading of zips:

Quote:‘-R rejlist’
‘--reject rejlist’
‘reject = rejlist’
The ‘--reject’ option works the same way as ‘--accept’, only its logic is the reverse; Wget will download all files except the ones matching the suffixes (or patterns) in the list.

So, if you want to download a whole page except for the cumbersome mpegs and .au files, you can use ‘wget -R mpg,mpeg,au’. Analogously, to download all files except the ones beginning with ‘bjork’, use ‘wget -R "bjork*"’. The quotes are to prevent expansion by the shell.

I am considering having a look at creating some extra sftp users so you can dump files on the box. I am not particularly fond of useful resources being held only on file sharing sites, who knows what will happen to mediafire, et al.

Does anyone have these ? =)

buonaparte Wrote:6 dictionaries in Lingvo format
http://www.mediafire.com/?qryud0kcmlbeypd

Thanks in advance : )

I'll upload them tomorrow if the world is still there.

http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/NEW/

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buonaparte Wrote:http://users.bestweb.net/~siom/martian_mountain/NEW/

And already on the mirror, cron jobs are great

Thank you very much : )

Have you used the dictionaries before ? Been searching and Lingvo doesn't support Japanese. However, there seems to be a trick in the "Readme before use" file we get after each unzipping of a compressed dictionary and I’ve been trying it for a long long time.
In case someone tries them :
I tried to use ABBYY DSL Compiler to convert these .dsl dictionaries into Lingvo .lsd ones. DSL Compiler failed and displayed the error : “No entries successfully compiled” because “The headword contains characters not supported by the current language” . Because, apparently, DSL Compiler doesn't support Japanese either.

longlivelingvo !!!

Edited because of a certain my-reply-is-laughable paranoia.

Lingvo 12 does support Japanese. It supports any language if you add a dictionary.
The onscreen mouse-over pop-up works too.
Here's Japanese.

Thanks for the heads-up. Will try everything and report back in a few days
*fingers crossed*


Installed Lingvo 12. Did what the "Readme (before use)" in each dictionary .rar file said. AND got rid of the unnecessary [trn] and [/trns] elements (DSLcompiler didn't accept them). Then used DSLcompiler installed with Lingvo 12. Successfully converted .dsl to .lsd and added the dictionary to Lingvo 12 under (Chinese) and voila ! I have a Lingvo that translates Japanese !
Even added the dictionary to Lingvo x5 and it works ! ^^

I figured out how to access the audio files at http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/ (Online Japanese Accent Dictionary) directly, and made two html files (male and female voice) with mapping tables linking to them:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/el28re...o/OJAD.rar

Includes pitch accent information (accented mora location, no pretty CSS/text annotation, but can easily be done with a script).

Audio can be used instead/alongside JDIC audio in Anki, etc. Or maybe in a future version of Rikaisama, where each conjugation (where available) has its own audio file?

Audio files (uncompressed 703 MB):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/an38ul....part1.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0u8rg4....part2.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5wo5ki....part3.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/p7qzu5....part4.rar

Example filename: 盗む_ぬすんだ.mp3

cb4960 Wrote:Maybe someday. In the meantime, you can rename your audio files from "kanji_kana".mp3 to "kana - kanji.mp3" and put the directory that contains the files into the "Clipboard & Save -> Saved audio" field.

To batch rename the files to that format in Windows, download this 3 kb executable from github, place it in the audio directory and run this through the command prompt:

Code:

RR.exe *.mp3 "(.*?)_(.*?).mp3" "$2 - $1.mp3"

The result will be: ぬすんだ - 盗む.mp3

Additional 812 mp3 files with correct pitch accents: http://www.mediafire.com/download/czm2w0...eplace.rar

Replace the old ones with these. Must be done after you've used RR.exe to batch rename them, as these replacement ones already use the new naming format.

toshiromiballza Wrote:I figured out how to access the audio files at http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/ (Online Japanese Accent Dictionary) directly, and made two html files (male and female voice) with mapping tables linking to them:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/j1htrn...g/OJAD.rar

No pitch accent marks, though, just the word/voice mapping.

Your table is not complete.

i-adjectives
You skipped one category: i. (final position). i + N形 and i. are not necessarily identical.

You skipped variations everywhere.

Examples:
赤い
i + N形
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3
i.
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3

言い換える
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3


密かな
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/sou...female.mp3

I skipped all variations to make it easier for me to extract and align everything correctly. Figured the first one is the most common, so I only left that one.

I'll include i。 now.

Also found some errors in OJAD's database, but haven't fixed them in the file (there might be others with compound verbs, haven't checked those):

尊い とうとい, nakatta form is listed as とうとかった instead of とうとくなかった.
遅らす おくらす is treated as an ichidan verb
任す まかす is partially treated as an ichidan verb
煎る いる is partially treated as an ichidan verb
綻びる ほころびる is partially treated as a godan verb
危ぶむ あやぶむ, ba form is listed as あやぶまれば instead of あやぶめば
挙げる あげる, causative is あげされる instead of あげさせる (audio is correct)
上げる あげる, causative is あげされる instead of あげさせる (audio is correct)
植える うえる, causative is うえらせる instead of うえさせる
植える うえる, potential is うえれる instead of うえられる
飢える うえる, causative is うえらせる instead of うえさせる
紛らす まぎらす, imperative is まぎらせろ instead of まぎらせ
老いる おいる, volitional is おいられよう instead of おいよう
合わす あわす, potential is あわせられる instead of あわせる
卸す おろす, potential is おろされる instead of おろせる
浮く うく, masu form is うかびます instead of うきます
浮かべる うかべる, potential is うかべる instead of うかべられる
被せる かぶせる, passive is かぶせる instead of かぶせられる
暴れる あばれる, potential iｓ あばれる instead of あばれられる

する (item 2317) seems to be missing.

Also missing but unecessary
受かる 1091 = 101 受かる
手術する 2242 = 1711

I checked the site more than a year ago, as far as I remember some mp3 files were corrupted, but they're all right generally.

I've manually removed some duplicates, yes (and する, thought it was unnecessary).

Audio files uploaded.

Almost 2500 mp3 files have two variations, marked as _1_(fe)male.mp3 and _2_(fe)male.mp3.
On the site http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/ one is above, the other is below, but randomly.
I'm not sure which pitch distribution you chose and if mp3 recordings always agree with the pitch marked in your html file.

Examples:
見なす みなす0 _2_ above
見なす みなす2 _1_ below

見慣れる みなれる0 _2_ above
見慣れる みなれる3 _1_ below

buonaparte Wrote:but randomly.

Hmm, I didn't realize this was the case. I always used _1_.

buonaparte Wrote:I'm not sure which pitch distribution you chose and if mp3 recordings always agree with the pitch marked in your html file.

The pitch is always the first one, but the audio is also always _1_, so they don't always match as you have found out.

I'll see what I can do about that... Thanks.

By the way, there are some audio clips with incorrect pitch as they themselves acknowledge: http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/pages/favor

Edit: yeah, I'll have to replace 783 mp3 files. I'll upload them separately.

Edit2: post updated, link with replacement mp3s added. male.html and female.html have not been updated so they still point to the incorrect audio files.

All in all there are 38,933 audio files, only 13 of which are male. All erroneous ones from post #418 are removed.

Edit3: there are some clips some with _3_ as first. I'll have to update them as well.

Edit4: OJAD_replace.rar updated. 25 files updated and included 懇切丁寧.

Could you please re-upload everything named correctly ?The command prompt code didn't work for me. Maybe it's same problem with my computer.

I guess I could, but only if I can't help you with renaming them. What was the problem? For example, if the audio directory is on your desktop, you put RR.exe into the folder, open command prompt and type: cd desktop/ojad. Now you just type/paste the command above and I see no reason why it shouldn't work.