So is SOAS in London finally sending out score reports? Yippee! I might actually get mine before I leave for Japan next Sunday... if it gets to the US in time before I leave.

I'd love to know if I passed before the application period for the December test is over. >_<

Naturally, congratulations to everyone who passed.

True, but that's just good motivation to try again for a better score.

In terms of jobs/university etc. I doubt anyone would actually care too much about your exact score more just that you'd reached the minimum standard to make you worth interviewing, so from that point of view I doubt it matters.

I think wanting to improve my Japanese is motivation enough. No point in taking it again.

dizmox Wrote:I think wanting to improve my Japanese is motivation enough. No point in taking it again.

that's my motivation, just keep getting better and better and better ( no joke)

You could just take other, harder tests than JLPT1.

JTEST (both types), BJT, kanken, etc.

They are good for resume padding if anything else. Everyone and their dog has JLPT1 now.

In my case I don't think I can bear to pay for the super expensive trip to Fukuoka to take either the J-test or BJT this year, so it's probably going to have to be the kanken next.

Got my N1 results today.

文字・語彙・文法：40/60
聴解：60/60
読解：6/60

合計：106/180

Even though I got more than 100 which is the 合格ライン. I failed in the reading section (合格ライン：19). Kinda hurts inside (T_T) Time to prepare for December.

atreya Wrote:Got my N1 results today.

文字・語彙・文法：40/60
聴解：60/60
読解：6/60

合計：106/180

Even though I got more than 100 which is the 合格ライン. I failed in the reading section (合格ライン：19). Kinda hurts inside (T_T) Time to prepare for December.

You'll get it next time, you're listening skills must be pretty awesome.
Well done.

N1 = 125/180

I PASSSSSSSSSSSSED! Muhahaha.

The single reason it feels awesome is because... I did it in just under 3 years without ever going to Japan... then I went to Japan the VERY next day after the test! Haha. Wow... stoked. Awesome memory, neat story and a really fun time.

Love all you guys here at the forum, congrats to those who passed. Ganbare to those who didn't. I couldn't have done it without you guys. I know most of us didn't take classes (some have) but I feel like you all my classmates in some way haha

mezbup Wrote:N1 = 125/180

I PASSSSSSSSSSSSED! Muhahaha.

The single reason it feels awesome is because... I did it in just under 3 years without ever going to Japan... then I went to Japan the VERY next day after the test! Haha. Wow... stoked. Awesome memory, neat story and a really fun time.

Congrats! Now lay out your 3 year plan of what you did, so I can follow it.

What did people do to get these 60/60 listening scores?

dizmox Wrote:What did people do to get these 60/60 listening scores?

Listen to real Japanese as much as possible. The listening on the test is horribly unnatural and slow "test Japanese" so if you're used to the real thing it's quite easy.

PS I feel like going to Japan simply works on speaking and listening with a little bit of reading from everyday life (but certainly not "reading comprehension" per se). Certainly through that an overall higher understanding of the language can be acquired but the literary/newspaper vocabulary and reading comprehension knowledge required to pass N1 can only come from reading- which can be done anywhere. Grin, bear it and read a ridiculous amount of Japanese! 8)

dizmox Wrote:What did people do to get these 60/60 listening scores?

I do work as an interpreter, so I listen to Japanese throughout the day.
Another thing I do, is take notes in English as I listen to the Japanese to make sure I interpret without any mistakes.
And I did the same during the exam i.e. take notes in Hiragana, English depending on the situation & time ^^

Apart from that I listen to random podcasts all the time. So yea, listen to real Japanese as much as possible!

raz789 Wrote:You'll get it next time, you're listening skills must be pretty awesome.
Well done.

Thanks man, let's hope I pass the 4th time around. That was my 3rd attempt

mezbup Wrote:N1 = 125/180

I PASSSSSSSSSSSSED! Muhahaha.

The single reason it feels awesome is because... I did it in just under 3 years without ever going to Japan... then I went to Japan the VERY next day after the test! Haha. Wow... stoked. Awesome memory, neat story and a really fun time.

Love all you guys here at the forum, congrats to those who passed. Ganbare to those who didn't. I couldn't have done it without you guys. I know most of us didn't take classes (some have) but I feel like you all my classmates in some way haha

日本語の学習方法の秘訣を教えて下さい！お願いします。
4回目に合格したい。今年の12月にN1の試験に合格したいんです！

atreya Wrote:Got my N1 results today.
聴解：60/60

This astonished me. O_O How's that possible? I just do what ta1212112 told me, namely listening and listening. I mostly listen passive, having it in the background, just something killing silence while I work on something I do not need concentration and can endure something running in the background. @mezbup: congratz. I need your advice, I feel dumb listening to Japanese~.~

atreya Wrote:日本語の学習方法の秘訣を教えて下さい！お願いします。
4回目に合格したい。今年の12月にN1の試験に合格したいんです！

秘訣なんかないんですよ。：P
このレベルでは勉強方法の問題じゃなくて、日本語を実際に使ってるかどうかという問題だと思いますよ。そしてどれくらい使ってるか、ということですね。atreyaさんの得点は結構よかったけど、読解だけが問題だったら読解に集中すればいいんでしょう？目が頭から落ちるまで日本語を読めば、問題解決！w　

mezbup Wrote:N1 = 125/180

I PASSSSSSSSSSSSED! Muhahaha.

The single reason it feels awesome is because... I did it in just under 3 years without ever going to Japan... then I went to Japan the VERY next day after the test! Haha. Wow... stoked. Awesome memory, neat story and a really fun time.

Love all you guys here at the forum, congrats to those who passed. Ganbare to those who didn't. I couldn't have done it without you guys. I know most of us didn't take classes (some have) but I feel like you all my classmates in some way haha

Sweet, good to hear

Tori-kun Wrote:

atreya Wrote:Got my N1 results today.
聴解：60/60

This astonished me. O_O How's that possible? I just do what ta1212112 told me, namely listening and listening. I mostly listen passive, having it in the background, just something killing silence while I work on something I do not need concentration and can endure something running in the background. @mezbup: congratz. I need your advice, I feel dumb listening to Japanese~.~

One thing I noticed is that, one's mind has to get used to japanese. How long have you been learning? Now that it's been 2 years for me, I don't have problems with listening. Plus I had a habit of re-listening to interested/favorite stuff.

ta12121 Wrote:One thing I noticed is that, one's mind has to get used to japanese. How long have you been learning? Now that it's been 2 years for me, I don't have problems with listening. Plus I had a habit of re-listening to interested/favorite stuff.

Not sure how much I listen.. I started learning effectively words and compounds in Anki (without Audio) on 07/01/2011 after Heisig (= not real Japanese learning.. Just preparation). Perhaps like on podcast ("HOTCAST") a day? Often re-listening here, too.

さ、ぼくは耳が頭から落ちるまで聴解しなきゃー

Tori-kun Wrote:

ta12121 Wrote:One thing I noticed is that, one's mind has to get used to japanese. How long have you been learning? Now that it's been 2 years for me, I don't have problems with listening. Plus I had a habit of re-listening to interested/favorite stuff.

Not sure how much I listen.. I started learning effectively words and compounds in Anki (without Audio) on 07/01/2011 after Heisig (= not real Japanese learning.. Just preparation). Perhaps like on podcast ("HOTCAST") a day? Often re-listening here, too.

さ、ぼくは耳が頭から落ちるまで聴解しなきゃー

There is a plug-in that automatically generates audio, you can easily use that and have audio for vocab/sentences for anki.

I have a tendency to re-listen to stuff I understand but also with stuff that I general enjoy, even if I can't understand it that much. I noticed that, when I added common vocab and starting learning from that/sentences(over time of course and using anki). I gradually increased my listening skills and reading.

Don't get my wrong but I still do keep learning, but the majority of the time I can understand the majority of what I listen to. I will still keep learning new stuff and head into more areas that I'm not strong at.

drdunlap Wrote:

dizmox Wrote:What did people do to get these 60/60 listening scores?

Listen to real Japanese as much as possible. The listening on the test is horribly unnatural and slow "test Japanese" so if you're used to the real thing it's quite easy.

so true, I keep listening to real-native material. But the japanese on those tests sound really textbook style

I signed up for the N3 in december,it's my first time taking the jlpt,wish me luck!

i signed up for N2, finally!

i'm lazy/cheap though, so i bought N1 listening/reading practice books instead of N2. i hope it'll prepare me well enough...

i think i'm in the same boat as tori-kun though, my listening is horrible and i have no idea why. i've done the podcast thing, i watch copious amounts of TV but i just don't seem to get it... it's been 2 years for me too.

kainzero Wrote:i'm lazy/cheap though, so i bought N1 listening/reading practice books instead of N2. i hope it'll prepare me well enough...

Unless you're actually well above N2 level, those books will be too hard for you. I passed N2 last July, and then failed N1 this July, so there's a fairly big jump in difficultly--enough that a year wasn't enough to prepare me for (granted, I slacked off a bit on my studies at times).

Tzadeck Wrote:

kainzero Wrote:i'm lazy/cheap though, so i bought N1 listening/reading practice books instead of N2. i hope it'll prepare me well enough...

Unless you're actually well above N2 level, those books will be too hard for you. I passed N2 last July, and then failed N1 this July, so there's a fairly big jump in difficultly--enough that a year wasn't enough to prepare me for (granted, I slacked off a bit on my studies at times).

what would you say was the hardest part about jumping from N2 to N1?

at the moment, i finished my N2 vocab book and i'm nearly done with my level 2 grammar book (it's so old, it's not even N2!)... testing-wise, i did okay on most of them.

i'm definitely struggling right now with N1 reading and listening, but... i feel like with 3 months into them i'd be ready for N2.