I was working on a card list for KiCL (the knuckles/sonic language game) and entering readings for the kanji I already know. When I hit 十 I ran into a problem.

I have no idea how to read or type two of the on-readings.

I understand that one uses the little 'つ' in ordinary usage to double the following consonant. But how do you read/type these?

ジッ、 ジュッ

I'm having to enter my responses in romaji because typing with the IME is difficult in this game, so while I could copy and paste those in... I still wouldn't know how to read the reading. >.<

Can any of you more experienced folks assist?

Cheers,
Jess

"ji xtsu"

if you type x before a character it makes it little. not every character, but the ones that can be little characters.

I didn't know that, thanks kainzero.

I found it also works with "l" as well as with "x", and this way you can write:
ぁぃぅぇぉヵヶっゃゅょゎ.

It's nice to know that.

If xtsu doesn't work for you (like it doesn't work for me) then xtu should.

Thank you all for such quick replies.

My question was more about how to... it's kind of hard to word I guess. How to type them in romaji? Or how the the baby つ makes the pronunciation different.

ジュッ as Jyuu? How does it differ from ジュウ? Or does it?

Or should I just file those readings as insane and move on

Thanks again!

Why would you need ジュッ just by itself? It's been followed by something every time I've seen it. For example, 十分 「じゅっぷん」 or 十歳　「じゅっさい」. I've never seen it standing by itself...

Edit:
In terms of pronunciation, it's just like any other word with the small -tsu, like かった　or 当たった. Your tongue should hit the back of the top row of your teeth, and then your tongue should push back away from your teeth.

ジュッ isn't really a reading of the kanji, it's just how it's pronounced in certain counting systems like 十分 or 十歳, as vileru indicates above. There's no real way to represent them in romaji or pronounce them because they don't exist by themselves.

When sound effects (such as those in manga) end with ッ, I think it's supposed to imply something similar to an exclamation point.

vileru Wrote:Why would you need ジュッ just by itself? It's been followed by something every time I've seen it. For example, 十分 「じゅっぷん」 or 十歳　「じゅっさい」. I've never seen it standing by itself...

Edit:
In terms of pronunciation, it's just like any other word with the small -tsu, like かった　or 当たった. Your tongue should hit the back of the top row of your teeth, and then your tongue should push back away from your teeth.

When you have exclamations like "あっ！" and in other contexts　it'll appear on its own. As far as I understand, just treat it as a very short punchy sound/glottal stop. Also what poster above said.

dizmox Wrote:

vileru Wrote:Why would you need ジュッ just by itself? It's been followed by something every time I've seen it. For example, 十分 「じゅっぷん」 or 十歳　「じゅっさい」. I've never seen it standing by itself...

Edit:
In terms of pronunciation, it's just like any other word with the small -tsu, like かった　or 当たった. Your tongue should hit the back of the top row of your teeth, and then your tongue should push back away from your teeth.

When you have exclamations like "あっ！" and in other contexts　it'll appear on its own. As far as I understand, just treat it as a very short punchy sound/glottal stop. Also what poster above said.

Maybe there's some confusion. I'm just talking about how っ is used in じゅっ and not any other place. But yes, what you said is important information to know when it comes to understanding the use of っ.

Yay! I think I have it figured out now.

I've never seen ジュッ before myself, but if you check wwwjdic you'll find it listed as one of the on-readings for 十. It's also on the back of my kanji cards from polarcloud.

I've find these readings under insane/ignore and just learn the ones that seem to be more commonly used. Suppose it's listed because of the other counting systems you guys mentioned, but I'll learn about those later I guess.

ありがとうございました！