I've been going through the ALC sentence compilations here: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...0#pid43560

The spreadsheet notes at the top that the sentences are for "Japanese native speakers who are learning English". Yet I've read somewhere before that the Japanese sentences were actually translated from English into Japanese by translators. Is there any truth to this?

More importantly, are the Japanese sentences grammatical? (Or even if they're not, do they sound natural?)

I use it religously and it's always seemed pretty accurate to me. Some of the translations are a bit of a creative stretch though.

[Katsuo]

ryuukohito Wrote:Yet I've read somewhere before that the Japanese sentences were actually translated from English into Japanese by translators. Is there any truth to this？

They are probably referring to "Eijiro", a dictionary made by translators that can be used for free via the ALC website. Eijiro: 英辞郎 on the WEB (see top left of page).

The sentences I linked to are not part of Eijiro and were presumably created in-house by ALC (a major publisher of language texts). The translation direction of these sentences is Japanese to English.

Katsuo Wrote:The sentences I linked to are not part of Eijiro and were presumably created in-house by ALC (a major publisher of language texts). The translation direction of these sentences is Japanese to English.

So these were in-house Japanese native speakers who wrote in Japanese, then translated into English? That sounds fantastic. I have no qualms about the authenticity of the Japanese text now. (I am currently focusing on production practice, and if the Japanese is natural, I am all the more willing to practice using it. The English translation only serves as a convenient reference.)

I've taken some of the spreadsheet data and converted them into Quizlet sets, if anyone's interested.

Can someone make and upload the anki deck of this spreadsheet? Apparently I'm retarded and can't do it without a bug in Anki not letting me.

ems573 Wrote:Can someone make and upload the anki deck of this spreadsheet? Apparently I'm retarded and can't do it without a bug in Anki not letting me.

Damien might not like that. That's a huge amount of data that many people will just download and take up server space, yet not even get 10% of the way through. Unless you're REALLY going to learn all the sentences then just treat that spreadsheet as a resource to grab from.

Here's the best way: Copy lines from the spreadsheet that you want to use into notepad (if you use windows). When you built up 20 to 30 lines save it as a .txt UTF-8 (not UTF, but UTF-8 as there's a difference). Import that into your Anki deck. Study those while you build up another 20 to 30 sentences.

This way, what's on the server is being studied.

Nukemarine Wrote:

ems573 Wrote:Can someone make and upload the anki deck of this spreadsheet? Apparently I'm retarded and can't do it without a bug in Anki not letting me.

Damien might not like that. That's a huge amount of data that many people will just download and take up server space, yet not even get 10% of the way through. Unless you're REALLY going to learn all the sentences then just treat that spreadsheet as a resource to grab from.

Here's the best way: Copy lines from the spreadsheet that you want to use into notepad (if you use windows). When you built up 20 to 30 lines save it as a .txt UTF-8 (not UTF, but UTF-8 as there's a difference). Import that into your Anki deck. Study those while you build up another 20 to 30 sentences.

This way, what's on the server is being studied.

Can't be that big of a deck surely? The Dictionary of Japanese Grammar is 8.5k sentences and this one has 6k?

[Katsuo]

ems573 Wrote:Can someone make and upload the anki deck of this spreadsheet? Apparently I'm retarded and can't do it without a bug in Anki not letting me.

OK, Download.

I zipped the file, but it's still about 8MB. Also, I'm not an Anki expert so this is a fairly basic presentation of the data which you'll probably want to tweak to your own requirements.

mezbup Wrote:

Nukemarine Wrote:

ems573 Wrote:Can someone make and upload the anki deck of this spreadsheet? Apparently I'm retarded and can't do it without a bug in Anki not letting me.

Damien might not like that. That's a huge amount of data that many people will just download and take up server space, yet not even get 10% of the way through. Unless you're REALLY going to learn all the sentences then just treat that spreadsheet as a resource to grab from.

Can't be that big of a deck surely? The Dictionary of Japanese Grammar is 8.5k sentences and this one has 6k?

I could be wrong, But I think Nukemarine was referring to a big deck uploaded to Anki's shared decks. Where a split up deck makes a lot more sense. Since not everyone will get through the whole deck.

Yeah, I was thinking about the decks uploaded to the Anki shared deck servers. Doing like Khatsu did is fine. Of course, when Damien starts creating subscribed user rules then it's a moot point. If you're not subscribed, then you're limited to a certain number of decks and facts.

Hey, thanks a ton man. I always get frustrated as hell when Anki doesn't do what I want it to do, which is pretty much most of the time.