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Stardict Windows 7 Help

#1
After reading some of the posts here on the forum, I have been trying desperately to get this program to work. I realize this is not a tech support site, but I searched and searched and there are no other resources out there.

My problem is simple (yet annoying). The program doesn't scan words outside of it's own main window, thus defeating the whole purpose of a pop up dictionary.

I've tried Google Chrome, anki, notepad, word; it doesn't work with anything.

Is there something I am missing here? I tried disabling the Aero interface also, but to no avail.

Thank in advance!

UPDATE: Checking off the "scan clipboard" option works but, I thought it was supposed to popup on mouse over? No?
Edited: 2010-09-27, 9:16 pm
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#2
Works fine in all programs for me (Windows 7 64-bit). I have a particular preference for Stardict, as mentioned elsewhere, and my Scan Selection settings are: Uncheck all except bottom two boxes (Scan clipboard/use hotkey), w/ the hotkey set to Ctrl + Alt + X. So that only when I double-click to select a word and ctrl + C/ctrl+alt+X it do I get the definition, then ctrl+alt+X it again to remove popup.

Before I put it on the above settings--when it was on default settings, it worked as normal i.e. like Rikaichan but in every program.

Edit: Hmm now when I tried it w/ default settings, it only works like Rikaichan in some programs but not in others (at the moment not Firefox nor Anki). However, the usual way I do it works in any program (scan clipboard w/ hotkey). Personally I can't imagine using it any other way, don't want popups appearing every time I move my mouse.
Edited: 2010-09-27, 10:11 pm
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#3
Yeah I guess that makes sense anyways; having popups everywhere would drive me crazy. I'm the kind of guy that doesn't really care if he needs a particular feature or not, he just wants it to work because it is supposed to work.

Thanks for the input!
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#4
Cheesemaster64 Wrote:Yeah I guess that makes sense anyways; having popups everywhere would drive me crazy. I'm the kind of guy that doesn't really care if he needs a particular feature or not, he just wants it to work because it is supposed to work.

Thanks for the input!
Not me, I'm the kind of person who deliberately forgets features they think are bad. ;p

Anyway, for Stardict, it has to be using a specific text drawing library api thingy, apparently. Clipboard scanning is best. Apparently you can use an 'auto copy' extension for Firefox also, but might as well just use Rikaichan if you want a perpetual automatic popup dictionary rather than surgical precision tactical awesomeness w/ clipboard scanning hotkey.
Edited: 2010-09-27, 11:00 pm
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#5
you can actually just lock the stardict popup window with the green arrow button. I have to do this because the popup window will move around and disappear, really annoying.
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#6
I was also wondering, is there a way to copy the text of the definition without all the html code?

Example (成績)

<b><span size="x-large">成績</span></b>
<span foreground="blue">&lt;--- Meikyo Japanese-Japanese ---&gt;</span>
<span foreground="purple">せいせき</span>
<span foreground="blue">n.</span> [名]
仕事・事業・学業などを行った結果。できばえ。 「営業―」「―表」
Edited: 2010-09-29, 3:44 am
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#7
Cheesemaster64 Wrote:I was also wondering, is there a way to copy the text of the definition without all the html code?

Example (� 績)

<b><span size="x-large">� 績</span></b>
<span foreground="blue">&lt;--- Meikyo Japanese-Japanese ---&gt;</span>
<span foreground="purple">� �� �� �� </span>
<span foreground="blue">n.</span> [� ]
仕事・事業・学業� �� �を行� �� �� 果。� �� � �� �。 「営業―� 「―表�
You mean when you save it to text file? It shouldn't copy the code, just click 'save' and it'll save the definition or word to .txt depending on the settings you have under 'export'.

It remembers the 'focus' on the 'save' button at the top of the floating window, so you can just hit space or enter or something (I forget), but I do wish there were a simply hotkey to save like with Rikaichan. We had a conversation about this in another thread. I am still searching for a good tool that simply saves clipboarded text to .txt. Esp. text that's ready for import into Anki. I think wrightak eventually wrote a similar tool to that, but it's browser-only (Rikaichan).

Here's some random prev. convos:

save clipboard to txt?: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...3#pid93003

Translation Aggregator: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=5425

stardict dictionaries/exporting: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...1#pid96411
Edited: 2010-09-29, 10:26 am
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#8
There's also this Japanese parser: http://www.kynd.info/library/japanese/

You can save it to your HDD but still requires connection to the internet as it uses mecapi instead of mecab (mecapi being a web api for Mecab). Now that I've got Mecab working though it's frustrating, because Translation Aggregator works for me, but doesn't let you copy/paste the parsed information.

Kynd's tool allows for copy/pasting but requires internet. One of our forum users made a tool similar to this but which exported the info to an Anki friendly format, but unfortunately it was online only, tied to a single site, which unsurprisingly is now offline (one of my main points in looking for a standalone tool like Kynd or TA).

One of these days someone will write a standalone tool that parses and allows exporting to Anki -- and has JDIC audio. ;p
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#9
I must have installed at least 10 different clipboard managers looking for something that would simply save to a text file. What I ended up using was a program called Ditto. It won't save to a text file, but it gives you a little window of your clipboard history and you can select everything then drag and drop into notepad.
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#10
Well actually what I was meaning to say is, I'd like the information copied to the clipboard to be just the definition, without the HTML code. I don't want to have a separate txt file at all, as I just paste things into anki on the fly.

Anyways it sounds like it is not possible with stardict anyways. We internet guys are just so lazy. Imagine having to use a book dictionary, and then TYPE all of it in? UGH.
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#11
Cheesemaster64 Wrote:Well actually what I was meaning to say is, I'd like the information copied to the clipboard to be just the definition, without the HTML code. I don't want to have a separate txt file at all, as I just paste things into anki on the fly.

Anyways it sounds like it is not possible with stardict anyways. We internet guys are just so lazy. Imagine having to use a book dictionary, and then TYPE all of it in? UGH.
In that case, you don't even need to put the definition into Anki. Just use Stardict when you need to since it works in Anki. Takes me like 1 second to bring up a definition. Dbl-click/ctrl-c & ctrl-alt-x if needed to toggle scan mode.
Edited: 2010-10-02, 9:58 pm
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#12
This may sound odd, by in my deck I like to have the definitions of the words I don't know in the card itself. I study using my ipod frequently, so having the definitions in the card themselves is what I'm after.

My card template for anki:

(Sentence)
---------
(Reading)
<br>
(All definitions of all words I don't know)<-------- This is where I want to copy and paste from stardict without the HTML mess.
(Image)
(Audio)
(Tags)

What I have been doing is just copying, then pasting and deleting all that nasty code, I just wanted a way where I could just copy the definition only.
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#13
Just send definitions to .txt via Stardict's export options, then import the .txt into Anki.

Does iPod Touch/iPhone OS not have a pop-up dictionary for Japanese? I thought it had something like Stardict built-in or something.
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#14
Cheesemaster64 Wrote:Well actually what I was meaning to say is, I'd like the information copied to the clipboard to be just the definition, without the HTML code. I don't want to have a separate txt file at all, as I just paste things into anki on the fly.

Anyways it sounds like it is not possible with stardict anyways. We internet guys are just so lazy. Imagine having to use a book dictionary, and then TYPE all of it in? UGH.
I just discovered BetterPaste but am too lazy to test it out. I think it strips HTML from copied text.

http://lifehacker.com/5388814/better-pas...atted-text
Edited: 2010-10-31, 1:29 am
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#15
OK this works for sure: http://www.clipboardfusion.com/ - In the options you just check the 'remove HTML' box. Or you can right-click and check that option via tray.
Edited: 2010-10-31, 1:58 am
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