Quote:For sport it varies, but they do break up their sessions. I've never seen someone's training regimen read as "power clean 5x2 followed by 100m sprints followed by agility."

http://www.crossfit.com

nest0r Wrote:I really don't think that article was saying you just rapidly cycle through everything in athletics or musicianship, etc. I think they were saying you don't just do the equivalent of 'cramming'. There's a lot of research for training skills out there, and it all emphasizes the spacing effect. In fact, I think most of the spacing research has traditionally been in skill/sport training.

Well, this was the quote I was looking at:
"Varying the type of material studied in a single sitting — alternating, for example, among vocabulary, reading and speaking in a new language — seems to leave a deeper impression on the brain than does concentrating on just one skill at a time. "

I suppose it differs because it's not well defined on what kind of skill cycling you do. If I had a basketball team I wouldn't make one day shooting, then the next day all dribbling, etc. But I would put strength training on a different day than conditioning.

I've been weight training using a fullbody routine and I don't do any splits (and it's working!) but I don't mix in any conditioning with it.

zer0range Wrote:http://www.crossfit.com

Touche.
I can argue that Crossfit only trains for Crossfit games and is trying to be more of an all-around event, but if you were an athlete in a single discipline (which includes anything from team sports to a single track and field event) then Crossfit isn't as beneficial.

kainzero Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:I really don't think that article was saying you just rapidly cycle through everything in athletics or musicianship, etc. I think they were saying you don't just do the equivalent of 'cramming'. There's a lot of research for training skills out there, and it all emphasizes the spacing effect. In fact, I think most of the spacing research has traditionally been in skill/sport training.

Well, this was the quote I was looking at:
"Varying the type of material studied in a single sitting — alternating, for example, among vocabulary, reading and speaking in a new language — seems to leave a deeper impression on the brain than does concentrating on just one skill at a time. "

I suppose it differs because it's not well defined on what kind of skill cycling you do. If I had a basketball team I wouldn't make one day shooting, then the next day all dribbling, etc. But I would put strength training on a different day than conditioning.

I've been weight training using a fullbody routine and I don't do any splits (and it's working!) but I don't mix in any conditioning with it.

zer0range Wrote:http://www.crossfit.com

Touche.
I can argue that Crossfit only trains for Crossfit games and is trying to be more of an all-around event, but if you were an athlete in a single discipline (which includes anything from team sports to a single track and field event) then Crossfit isn't as beneficial.

I want to be clear on what you and zach(?) are saying: You're saying that "Many athletes, too, routinely mix their workouts with strength, speed and skill drills. " is untrue? Because I think it's very true across the board in a variety of ways. It sounds like they're comparing a single workout session to 'one sitting' i.e. one study session.

And zach is saying "Musicians have known this for years, and their practice sessions often include a mix of scales, musical pieces and rhythmic work. " is untrue, and that musicians don't do this mix in a single practice sessions often? I'm not a musician so I don't know.