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How do you do go about studying RTK?

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I'm interested in your methods. How you study/review/learn

Do you:

Read heisig (up to however many you do a day) while writing down each Kanji once? Do you write them doing a few times? Do you write them at all? After you're done, do you then do the Anki deck? Do you use the premade deck or enter in your own? If it's your own what format do you use?

If you can, just put down a huge summary (or detailed) explanation of what happens at the start of your session to the end.
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http://forum.koohii.com/search.php?search_id=489454540
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http://forum.koohii.com/search.php?search_id=979046060

Had you said, "Too many results," I'd be inclined to believe that.

I'm not totally convinced this isn't spam so, allow me to clean things up for you Wink
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Haha, I'm not sure you can hotlink to searches on this forum.
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Interesting...

Ah... well. I guess the OP will have to search for "studying" and "RTK" all by his/herself.
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#7
I'm going to put down how I go about it, previous topics or no Smile

The SRS I use is Anki. I have the pre-made Heisig Anki deck. The actual reps are done on my iPod touch using iAnki, the web-app version of Anki that syncs to the desktop Anki program.

Basically, there are times in my daily routine where I've gotten into the habit of doing my Kanji SRS reps - while waiting for the water to heat up for my morning ablutions, and during my commute to and from work. As my commute is walk -> bus -> walk -> subway -> walk there are plenty of times where I'm not doing anything, perfect to take out the iPod and do some reps. The downside is I tend to forget on weekends!

At work, I sync my iPod reps with the desktop Anki application. I've got most of the Heisig deck suspended, and I add 20 (or so) new cards every two days (or so). That's because the iAnki app doesn't check the "new cards per day" setting in Anki, so it will keep chucking new cards at me until I choke if I don't do this.

When I'm adding (or rather, unsuspending) new cards, I read the Heisig entries for those Kanji, and check Reviewing the Kanji for good stories that resonate with me. I add the story to each card in turn.

I've modified the Heisig card format so each card has a "Story" text link; if I press that, it displays the story for that card. The plan is to not use the story, but it's there if I need it.

I have three other decks I review - Hiragana and Katakana, which I started ages ago and usually only have 1 or two due cards a day, and "Japanese Classes", a deck I constructed from the classes I took last year.

I almost completely neglected my Heisig while I took those classes, which I regret; now I've decided the priority is Heisig, Hiragana/Katakana and then the stuff from the classes, if I have time. If I take actual taught classes this year, I'm going to keep to the same priority; I think Heisig is going to help me more long-term than the bits and bobs I will get in class.

So my routine is: Reps in the morning on the way to work -> sync reps -> maybe add new cards -> reps in the evening on the way back home. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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#8
Korvar Wrote:iPod
That's a good idea; I never thought of that!
Korvar Wrote:I've got most of the Heisig deck suspended, and I add 20 (or so) new cards every two days (or so).
I just use the desktop application only, but this works with the online method too. I wanted to do no more than 100 new cards per day, so I put that in the study options dialog. The summary page you get (before doing a round of reviews), says how many cards you have never seen before also. I put "show new cards last" - that will prevent reviews from piling up. And I wanted to do a little time-boxing thing, so I put maximum 20 cards per session and 10 minutes per session. It takes me around 10 minutes to do 20 new cards and for previously reviewed cards usually around 3 minutes for 20 cards. I look up the stories when I see the kanji the first time using the link in the pre-made Heisig 2042 deck. And either create my own story or select one from this site.
Korvar Wrote:I've modified the Heisig card format so each card has a "Story" text link;
Can you explain how to do this modification? This sounds useful. I got through mine with weekly CSV exports of my stories from this site (and searching the file).

If you're curious, I did 100 new cards (or more) on 10 separate days during the 130 days it took me to answer every card the first time. For 50 of those 130 days, I did zero reviews - due to lack of interest or lack of time. I have an average of 60 reviews per day at this point. I wouldn't worry about your % correct. It is what it is. I failed new cards 74% of the time, young cards 30% of the time, and mature cards 20% of the time.

I wouldn't knock time boxing. Maybe I'm "doing it wrong" (this is my first time time boxing), but timeboxing in smaller boxes than the default 10 minutes of the Anki default works much better for me.

"Show new cards last" will also prevent you from making any progress. That's OK though. As Khatzumoto says, the default position for your SRS should be "Don't add." Reviewing a new card = adding, so don't add until you've done your scheduled reviews for the day.
Edited: 2010-09-10, 5:17 pm
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Quote:Can you explain how to do this modification? This sounds useful. I got through mine with weekly CSV exports of my stories from this site (and searching the file).
Open the deck, go to Settings -> Deck Properties. In the "Models & Priorities" tab select "Heisig", then "Edit".

In the "Model Properties" window, click the "Card Templates" tab. Set the "Question" field to:

Code:
<a href="http://kanji.koohii.com/study/?framenum=%(text:Heisig number)s">%(Keyword)s</a>
<br>
<FONT onClick="this.innerHTML = '%(text:Story)s'">Story</FONT>
You do have to be careful with adding stories, as a stray ' character will screw things up. You have to replace ' with \' which can be a pain Smile Also, if you want to italicise or bold any words in the story you have to use <i></i> and <b></b>. I tried that for a bit, but it was just too tedious!
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