...what's regular peps! made with?

Poison?

Usually high fructose (corn) syrup.

If you live in America, anything you eat is made mostly of corn and sometimes water. Get used to it.

Tzadeck Wrote:If you live in America, anything you eat is made mostly of corn and sometimes water. Get used to it.

You forgot about soy.

Seriously though, get the facts.

Tzadeck Wrote:If you live in America, anything you eat is made mostly of corn and sometimes water. Get used to it.

Apparently, I already am. @_@

Are the sodas in Japan sweetened with real sugar? When I was there, I noticed that they did seem to taste better, but I couldn't find a list of ingredients on the can.

I think it'll be interesting to see how life expectency in Japan becomes affected by the onslaught of American junk food. I often hear people reason, "Hey, McDonalds can't be that bad, the Japanese eat tons of it! And they smoke constantly too, but have the highest life expectency in the world, so clearly that's okay as well!"

I say give it a few decades for the statistics to show people dropping like flies thanks to the American diets

In 2004, researchers published an article in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, concluding “there is a distinct likelihood that the increased consumption of HFCS in beverages may be linked to the increase in obesity.” In this article, they explain that fructose does not stimulate the pancreas to release insulin and, in turn, does not trigger the secretion of the hormone leptin, which is instrumental in making us feel satiated. These researchers also point to the fact that the increased use of HFCS in the United States mirrors the dramatic increase in obesity. HFCS now accounts for more than 40 percent of the caloric sweeteners added to food and drinks.

The soft drink industry did their own studies following this to show there was no correlation between the transition to corn syrup and the recent increase in Roly poly Americans.
Japan has also had conflicting studies recently on whether or not cigarettes improve muscle mass Winston

quincy Wrote:

Tzadeck Wrote:If you live in America, anything you eat is made mostly of corn and sometimes water. Get used to it.

You forgot about soy.

Seriously though, get the facts.

THAT COMMERCIAL! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I HAVE HATED EVERY ONE OF THEM. AHHHHHHHHHH.

Aijin Wrote:I think it'll be interesting to see how life expectency in Japan becomes affected by the onslaught of American junk food. I often hear people reason, "Hey, McDonalds can't be that bad, the Japanese eat tons of it! And they smoke constantly too, but have the highest life expectency in the world, so clearly that's okay as well!"

I say give it a few decades for the statistics to show people dropping like flies thanks to the American diets

i think after a few decades, the declining birth rate will show even more.



i always thought it was bad when you had to make a commercial saying it wasn't bad for you.

Zarxrax Wrote:Are the sodas in Japan sweetened with real sugar? When I was there, I noticed that they did seem to taste better, but I couldn't find a list of ingredients on the can.

At least Coca Cola is made with HFCS in Japan:
原材料名 : 糖類（果糖ぶどう糖液糖、砂糖）、カラメル色素、酸味料、香料、カフェイン (Source: http://www.cocacola.co.jp/products/lineup/cocacola.html)

Although I don't know if there's a difference between Japanese and American HFCS.

Anyway, why drink coke in Japan if you can have green tea?

bodhisamaya Wrote:In 2004, researchers published an article in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, concluding “there is a distinct likelihood that the increased consumption of HFCS in beverages may be linked to the increase in obesity.” In this article, they explain that fructose does not stimulate the pancreas to release insulin and, in turn, does not trigger the secretion of the hormone leptin, which is instrumental in making us feel satiated. These researchers also point to the fact that the increased use of HFCS in the United States mirrors the dramatic increase in obesity. HFCS now accounts for more than 40 percent of the caloric sweeteners added to food and drinks.

The soft drink industry did their own studies following this to show there was no correlation between the transition to corn syrup and the recent increase in Roly poly Americans.
Japan has also had conflicting studies recently on whether or not cigarettes improve muscle mass Winston

Of course the Softdrink association's study didn't show any risk. Just like the studies paid by the Tobacco industry never show any adverse health effects of smoking. These days I kind of just ignore any studies that are paid for by an organization that has a vested interest and whose profit derives from the substance being studied.

deathtrap Wrote:Of course the Softdrink association's study didn't show any risk. Just like the studies paid by the Tobacco industry never show any adverse health effects of smoking. These days I kind of just ignore any studies that are paid for by an organization that has a vested interest and whose profit derives from the substance being studied.

I am not sure why so many people demonize the Tobacco industry. The #1 cause of death is old age. Why isn't there some wacko leftist group attacking the old people industry?

bodhisamaya Wrote:

deathtrap Wrote:Of course the Softdrink association's study didn't show any risk. Just like the studies paid by the Tobacco industry never show any adverse health effects of smoking. These days I kind of just ignore any studies that are paid for by an organization that has a vested interest and whose profit derives from the substance being studied.

I am not sure why so many people demonize the Tobacco industry. The #1 cause of death is old age. Why isn't there some wacko leftist group attacking the old people industry?

Ummmmm. Are you actually trying to make a convincing argument, or just in it for the jokes?

Someone once told me that every stair I climb would add a second to my life. To this I replied, "so if I were to start climbing stars right now and never stopped, I would live forever?"

"Real sugar" is rapidly broken down into 50% glucose and 50% fructose during digestion. From that it looks like HFCS 42 or 55 ought to be nutritionally pretty much the same as sugar, and there isn't really much evidence to the contrary.

Regularly drinking "Pepsi made with real sugar" could cause obesity too, due to how easy it is to drink such a huge amount of sugar without noticing. And whether the "diet" version is bad for you is a different debate =P

Okay, so I'm the only one here who has never heard of "high fructose corn syrup" before, right?

shadysaint Wrote:Someone once told me that every stair I climb would add a second to my life. To this I replied, "so if I were to start climbing stars right now and never stopped, I would live forever?"

Is that a rethorical question? Of course you would live forever. In our hearts, as "the man who climbed the stairs, till the end....." You would be legend Then again, your accomplishment would still be nothing compared to the good working people who built those stairs

JimmySeal Wrote:Ummmmm. Are you actually trying to make a convincing argument, or just in it for the jokes?

Just for the jokes
Their TV ad looks like a Saturday Night Live skit mocking the product. They meant it to be a serious defense of HFCS though. It must have been created with help from FOX news.

The parodies of their ads are quite funny actually

I also feel as if people are looking at it the wrong way.

Anything with HFCS is usually bad for you, not because of the HFCS, but because it's put in highly processed foods that would not be that good for you in the first place.

It does have a different taste profile though...

But I stopped drinking soda anyway. I drink it very sparingly and only if there's alcohol in it. =)

bodhisamaya Wrote:

JimmySeal Wrote:Ummmmm. Are you actually trying to make a convincing argument, or just in it for the jokes?

Just for the jokes
Their TV ad looks like a Saturday Night Live skit mocking the product. They meant it to be a serious defense of HFCS though. It must have been created with help from FOX news.

My bad. I guess my sarcasm detector was on the fritz yesterday. :/

This was the first time I saw one of those ads, but I thought it was kinda clever. The "You know what they say about it....Well, you know..." seemed like pretty much the typical response you would get from someone ZOMGing at HFCS.
The comedy came in when the lecturing lady said "fine in moderation" as she poured a bright red substance into a child's drink cup.

I like what this duder had to say,

You body breaks down HFCS the same way it breaks down cane/beet sugar. There is nothing wrong with HFCS. The problem is that when it was introduced, the intake of it rose to the same levels as cane/beet sugar, but the levels of those sugars stayed the same. Instead of replacing the sugar people were consuming, they supplemented them with HFCS.

Also, the reason there is HFCS in everything, is because it is cheaper than sugar. That is thanks to government subsidies of the agriculture industry (it is more expensive to grow an acre of corn than to buy the corn produced on that acre) and from tariffs on imported sugar (I laugh when people call us a capitalist society). Since corn is so stupidly cheap to buy and since taxpayers pay for it upfront before going to the store to pay for it a second time, almost everything in the super market contains it in some form.

Obviously since the federal government is the problem, we need to give the federal government more power to control what we can and can't eat.

Soon I probably won't be able to grow/raise my own food because someone with a clipboard didn't say it was properly inspected. :lol: