On subtitles, I'm Rip van Winkle. Even the threads in RevTK that are written by "beginners" on this topic are way over my head. Sorry for the extreme noobness of this question.

Say I have a Japanese movie in the form of a commercial DVD, and it includes English subtitles. Can I somehow extract from it the input required by subs2srs?

I've never used subs2srs, but it says it supports vobsub files, so I guess this should do the trick: http://dctorrent.com/f8/guide-how-rip-su...sub-35637/

The link to the software mentioned in that guide may not actually contain the subtitle ripping program. Just download it here instead, but you can still follow the guide
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VSRip

Not easily. There are programs that'll rip subtitles, but you're better off looking for English subs that are already out there then learn to re time it for subs2srs or just copy/paste into anki. D-addicts is a good source for sub-titles.

Thanks for the help!

Some of the movies of mine that I'd like to get subtitles for are (apparently) too obscure for there to be ready-made subtitles available online. (E.g. Tokyo story, Man without a face, High and low, Vengeance is mine, etc.)

IOW, if I want subtitles for these, it looks like I'll have to rip them myself.

But none of these DVDs I own have Japanese subtitles; they have only English subtitles (and maybe subtitles in some other non-Japanese language). So, unless I'm missing some detail, it looks like, in any case, I won't be able to extract the data that subs2srs requires from these DVDs. Am I wrong?

In my admittedly narrow experience, DVDs of Japanese-language movies that have Japanese subtitles are pretty rare (e.g., none of my DVDs of Japanese movies have them). This would suggest that the subs2srs idea would be extremely difficult for Japanese. And yet judging from all the threads on subtitles in RevTK give the impression that the world is awash in oceans of Japanese subtitles. Something doesn't fit.

Pretty much every single japanese DVD released has japanese subtitles. Unfortunately, your DVD is probably American or some such. If you want japanese subs, you will usually be forced to import from Japan, which is expensive.

Great thread title! I went over to subs2srs as well last year but couldn't figure the site out (computer savvy I am not). So I ended up typing in the subtitles myself for some NHK videos I downloaded onto Youtube. They all got removed by NHK for copyright reasons though a few weeks ago(about 30 videos >_<).

Tobberoth Wrote:Pretty much every single japanese DVD released has japanese subtitles. Unfortunately, your DVD is probably American or some such.

OK, this explains a lot.

Tobberoth Wrote:If you want japanese subs, you will usually be forced to import from Japan, which is expensive.

...and hope that they have English subtitles! This is the thing: the two markets are so segregated, that it seems that it would make no economic sense to provide both Japanese and English subtitles in the same release.

You would be surprised. I live in Tokyo and from the videos I have rented of Japanese origin (i.e. non Hollywood movies) there are RARELY English subtitles. I even rented the My Girl drama and they didn't even have Japanese subtitles. Be careful before your drop a lot of money on some dvds.

bodhisamaya Wrote:Great thread title! I went over to subs2srs as well last year but couldn't figure the site out (computer savvy I am not). So I ended up typing in the subtitles myself for some NHK videos I downloaded onto Youtube. They all got removed by NHK for copyright reasons though a few weeks ago(about 30 videos >_<).

bodhisamaya, yes I had bookmarked your videos, but they dissapeared. How can I watch them?

They were removed by Youtube due to complaints from NHK so they are lost forever now.

Tobberoth Wrote:Pretty much every single japanese DVD released has japanese subtitles. Unfortunately, your DVD is probably American or some such. If you want japanese subs, you will usually be forced to import from Japan, which is expensive.

A lot of popular anime (Totoro, Spirited Away, etc.) and classic movies (Kurosawa, Teshigahara, etc.) movies have Japanese subtitles. Nevertheless, always inspect the packaging to double check whether subtitles are included or not.

on the topic, i'm yet to find a western movie where the japanese dub and the japanese subs are at all similar. seems that the dubbing and subbing processes are more often than not done completely independent of eachother and as such they really bear little resemblance to one another. sucks, because i have a fairly intimate knowledge of many jdubs, but really no way to ever get transcripts of them to make them useful as direct learning tools - they're only good for immersion.

chamois Wrote:on the topic, i'm yet to find a western movie where the japanese dub and the japanese subs are at all similar. seems that the dubbing and subbing processes are more often than not done completely independent of eachother and as such they really bear little resemblance to one another. sucks, because i have a fairly intimate knowledge of many jdubs, but really no way to ever get transcripts of them to make them useful as direct learning tools - they're only good for immersion.

It's the same with most anime or other Japanese stuff that gets released in english. With subs, they are able to remain more faithful to the original dialogue, but with a dub, you have to make it kinda match the mouth movements, so they have to take some liberties.

So the question remains, how can one use subs2srs to rip from a DVD?

In my case, I have all of the Japanese "Tiger and Dragon" DVDs, which have Japanese subtitles. I also managed to get English subtitle ".srt" files for each episode as well as an .AVI file of each episode.

So, I've got video and audio and Japanese subtitles on Japanese DVDs, and I've got video and audio .AVI files and English .srt subtitle files..

How can I compile what I've got to make a Tiger and Dragon Anki deck? It's SUCH a great drama, I'm surprised nobody has made one already.

mpacheco Wrote:So the question remains, how can one use subs2srs to rip from a DVD?

In my case, I have all of the Japanese "Tiger and Dragon" DVDs, which have Japanese subtitles. I also managed to get English subtitle ".srt" files for each episode as well as an .AVI file of each episode.

So, I've got video and audio and Japanese subtitles on Japanese DVDs, and I've got video and audio .AVI files and English .srt subtitle files..

How can I compile what I've got to make a Tiger and Dragon Anki deck? It's SUCH a great drama, I'm surprised nobody has made one already.

Did you even look at the subs2srs topic? It explains exactly how to do what you're asking in the first post.

quincy Wrote:Did you even look at the subs2srs topic? It explains exactly how to do what you're asking in the first post.

Are you talking about this thread?

http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=2512

If so, where does it talk about ripping from DVD? I'm not seeing it... Even a simple search for "dvd" shows that the term isn't used in the first post... It must be hiding right under my nose?

You HAVE the video files already, so I'm not going to get into ripping those from the DVD. If you can't google that...then I can't help you.

However for the subtitles...
If you're on a mac, you can use ffmpegX to extract the idx/sub pretty simply. Just rip the DVD to your HD, or I suggest using FairMount to "unlock" it. Load it into ffmpegx, and under "Filters" you've got a little "Subtitles" section. Mess with the settings, hit "Extract" and boom, you've got your Japanese subtitles.

Problem is that they'll be in idx/sub format, which is an image format, so you won't be able to edit or copy/paste any of them.

On Windows...They've got programs for it. I'm not on windows, so I can't really help you, but this: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VSRip seems to be a simple program that does the job.

Then just load them into subs2srs like he tells you to.

Asriel Wrote:However for the subtitles...
If you're on a mac, you can use ffmpegX to extract the idx/sub pretty simply. Just rip the DVD to your HD, or I suggest using FairMount to "unlock" it. Load it into ffmpegx, and under "Filters" you've got a little "Subtitles" section. Mess with the settings, hit "Extract" and boom, you've got your Japanese subtitles.

Problem is that they'll be in idx/sub format, which is an image format, so you won't be able to edit or copy/paste any of them.

Bingo. Yes, it was the subtitles bit that had me stumped, and it just so happens that I'm using a mac. Right now I'm playing with avidemux trying to make the Japanese subs. I'll tweak with this a bit longer and if I don't have any luck, I'll shoot for ffmpegX.

Thanks a million.

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I'm really confused about what exactly you want to do, but I'm guessing it's get the Japanese subtitles from your DVD. You can simply download the subtitles from this site http://project-modelino.com/japanese-movies.htm

quincy Wrote:I'm really confused about what exactly you want to do, but I'm guessing it's get the Japanese subtitles from your DVD. You can simply download the subtitles from this site http://project-modelino.com/japanese-movies.htm

I'm confused about what's confusing. My first post was pretty clear, I thought? I have Japanese DVDs with Japanese subtitles, and I have English subtitle files. I want to use those resources to somehow make an Anki deck, and I had not yet found information on how to use that combination of resources to do so.

That said, I thought I had everything up and working pretty well but I keep getting the same error at the same spot everytime (see link below)... Any ideas? Maybe this is a post better suited for the other thread that dev reads..

http://drop.io/ecejhxo/asset/subs2srs-ffmpeg-error-jpg

You need to have FFmpeg (the command line tool) saved somewhere in the directory with subs2srs. It might be named FFmpegX or something, so rename it ffmpeg. You probably have the Windows one included (that comes with ffmpeg, I think)

You can either 1. open up the ffmpegx.app package and search around for it, or you can 2. search the subs2srs thread and look for the megaupload link I posted with the one I used.

I think it just needs to be in the base directory of subs2srs, but I'm not 100% anymore. It's been a while.

Ahh yeah I got your file from megaupload and put it in the /bin folder as directed on that post... but I don't remember seeing anything about it being also needed in the base subs2srs folder. Will copy it there (and also leave it in /bin) and see what happens.

Cheers, Asriel. Appreciate the help!

Oh ok, maybe it was /bin
It's been a while. Did you set the permissions correctly? That can also cause troubles

mpacheco Wrote:I'm confused about what's confusing. My first post was pretty clear, I thought? I have Japanese DVDs with Japanese subtitles, and I have English subtitle files. I want to use those resources to somehow make an Anki deck, and I had not yet found information on how to use that combination of resources to do so.

What's confusing is you said that you have the following

.avi files of each episode
.srt files of the english subs
And I just provided you with the Japanese subs

Despite this you're still talking about ripping DVDs. If you have all of what I listed, what are you trying to get from the DVD?

The .AVI files I got are TV rips with 「この番組の提供は〜〜」 and I found out they don't line up with the subs.. so I was first trying to just get Japanese subs off the DVDs, and then found out I also need video from the DVDs... Sorry about that.

Ok, so I tried redoing permissions. Found this post:

Quote:I always wanted to use the ffmpeg command line tool (the one ffmpegX is the GUI of) in Terminal, but I didn't find it in Fink, and I didn't want to compile it from an experimental source. Well, there is a working binary of ffmpeg bundled with ffmpegX. To get it, simply follow these steps:

1. Get ffmpegX from the above URL. It's a pretty useful tool, because the ffmpeg synatx isn't quite easy to handle.
2. Control-click on the ffmpegX application, choose Show Package Contents from the pop-up menu, and navigate into Resources.
3. Copy ffmpeg to /usr/local/bin.
4. Execute the following in Terminal (as admin):

sudo chown root:wheel /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg
sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg

Now you have a working version of ffmpeg in the Terminal.

but it still doesn't work... same error again... I must be missing some small step somewhere. >__<