Does this mean there are two kinds of gravity?

astendra Wrote:Does this mean there are two kinds of gravity?

Yes. You know how the Earth is flat? Well, one side of the magnet is made from metal from the top part and the other side is made from the metal from the bottom part.

You learn something new everyday on these forums!

What's this got to do with learning Japanese?? Mcjon, care to explain?

nest0r Wrote:What's this got to do with learning Japanese?? Mcjon, care to explain?

We're in the lounge! If this topic offends your beliefs, either post reasonable replies or ignore it.

Smackle what's gotten into you lately. Highly controversial topics out the wazzoo. And now this.

Smackle Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:What's this got to do with learning Japanese?? Mcjon, care to explain?

We're in the lounge! If this topic offends your beliefs, either post reasonable replies or ignore it.

I am offended as a lounge poster of intriguing links. You're doing it wrong, n00b. Giving my lounge a bad name. I mean... our lounge. Yes. If we wanted to read all your paltry newb links I'm sure we'd just go to one of those mainstream social bookmarking sites or forums like you probably get these from.

nest0r Wrote:

Smackle Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:What's this got to do with learning Japanese?? Mcjon, care to explain?

We're in the lounge! If this topic offends your beliefs, either post reasonable replies or ignore it.

I am offended as a lounge poster of intriguing links. You're doing it wrong, n00b. Giving my lounge a bad name. I mean... our lounge. Yes. If we wanted to read all your paltry newb links I'm sure we'd just go to one of those mainstream social bookmarking sites or forums like you probably get these from.

I love you.

Not again!

In all seriousness, no one knows why magnets work. Physics can describe the effect but can't explain it.

shadysaint Wrote:In all seriousness, no one knows why magnets work. Physics can describe the effect but can't explain it.

What do you mean, precisely? I'm no big city physicist, but all that stuff about magnetic fields and electrons at sites via Google seemed pretty detailed to me.

shadysaint Wrote:In all seriousness, no one knows why magnets work. Physics can describe the effect but can't explain it.

Quote:In all seriousness, if you are trying to tell me that magnets work because of something other than them having gravity in them because they are metal from the ground, I have another reason not to believe modern science.

Founder of the Creation Museum in Kentucky

If somebody could explain to me exactly how magnets work in great detail, I'd be much obliged. I don't want to listen to any scientists, though, because you incorrigible scoundrels are always lying, and raising my ire.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/magnet.htm

Mcjon01 Wrote:If somebody could explain to me exactly how magnets work in great detail, I'd be much obliged. I don't want to listen to any scientists, though, because you incorrigible scoundrels are always lying, and raising my ire.

At least some other person knows the song.

IceCream Wrote:@kazelee: whats up with closing the creation museum thread?? There was nothing particularly out of line or overly offensive in there, and it wasn't getting out of hand.

Take a look at that thread again. Start with the very first post. Follow the links. Reread and rewatch all the material.

Smackle has been on a sensationalist trip as of late, and that's one avenue where things can get pretty ugly.

You are all very intelligent, and I expect better of you than to prEy on religion for sake of it.

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That topic amounted to nothing more than, "Well jee golly gosh I just don't dem craaaazy religious folk, yahuck."

Meh, I could go either way. Seemed like it was mostly a thread for dropping in to briefly point and laugh. With some preaching to the choir from myself and a few others about the value of science? Meh.

"How do magnets work?"
Tough question, we still haven't figured out why does water become thickest at 4 degrees....

Oh, did we change the subject? Religion, riight. Oh I believe in God alright...there's just simply too much s*** happenning in the world to be simply called coincidence....
Oh and what do you know, my 100th post....coincidence?

I'll reference this one first >_>.

IceCream Wrote:the truly disturbing thing about it is not (the scientifically trashed) theories... if someone wants to have faith in the bible, that's up to them. It's even possible to beleive in what the bible says as metaphor which gestures towards other things, which leads to much stronger interpretations anyway. Its the presentation of it as Scientific Fact, and the actual lies that are told about real science. "We all have the same facts, we just interpret them different ways"?!?! ummm no. We have evidence and methods to determine the age of things. Really really really indisputable evidence. The dinosaurs did not exist 4000 years ago.

i swear, everyone who is not stupid should do their bit for the evolution of human beings and have 6 kids.

Ehm.

Evil_Dragon Wrote:

Smackle Wrote:They travel from all over the country with their children to find support for their beliefs.

If only there was some kind of.. book.. that could serve this purpose.

Maybe it's because of my upbringing, but I find it extremely hard to believe that people who were raised in "developed" countries and have access to an excess of education and information could actually fall for something like this.

Cough

Evil_Dragon Wrote:"God made Adam and Eve on the same day as land animals. So dinosaurs and people lived at the same time."
"Originally, before Adam sinned, all animals - including dinosaurs - were vegetarian"

Wha..

That's what I'm saying

Surreal Wrote:Bill Maher visits the museum in his documentary about religion, fast forward to 7:45

(the documentary is funny but Maher isn't exactly fair in the way he's edited it, so um, best to chew on some salt while watching)

I'm glad they thoroughly explain things so you really can understand it. Really, I can't even begin to take any of this seriously, it's like a really elaborate joke.
I like the accent on Noah w

To be fair he did say to take the video with a grain of salt... before slamming the museum and the people who actually believe this.

Smackle Wrote:It's important to know that this museum is actually very popular and many Americans take it seriously. They travel from all over the country with their children to find support for their beliefs. It is a very real belief for many Americans

Stated only to further emphasize the absurdity.

Blahah Wrote:The biggest flaw in the Noah flood story is fish and aquatic animals. God wiped out all the animals and saved 2 of each, except for fish and ducks and walruses and crabs, which he saved all of. The world must be filled with evil aquatics.

Blahah Wrote:If only we could get our tiny science brains around the concepts of sym- and allopatric speciation. But we can't! We're so puzzled. Thank the Lord for the Bible.

Mcjon01 Wrote:They were Methodists, granted, so they were crazy, but not this crazy. I think my dad might not believe in evolution, but that's probably because he suspects Al Gore has something to do with it, and not because of "God said so".

JimmySeal Wrote:Wow, and I thought it was just a joke from The Onion.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/creatio...x-skel,13/

And you believe something positive can come from this because?

IceCream Wrote:I think it's good to have these topics around so that people can look at what other people's views are, and maybe see things and understand things in a slightly different light. Both for religious and non religious people. Certainly that this kind of thing really goes on in America was an eye opener for me.

There's a difference between an eye opener and a spectacle. The topic was established with little to no respect for the institution or the people behind it.

ZOMG people actually believe in this crap!!!

Can create little to no "understanding."

Raschaverak Wrote:Oh, did we change the subject? Religion, riight. Oh I believe in God alright...there's just simply too much s*** happenning in the world to be simply called coincidence....

Well, you don't have to reject evolution to believe in God. The leaders of Anglican and Roman Catholic churches, for instance, embrace evolution and do not see it as opposing the Bible.

America is one of the few special cases where Creationism plays a part in politics and is the subject of many disputes over public education curriculum.

It's really not something that all Christians believe in.

Also, it's not a joke, because you don't spend 27 million dollars on a joke.

Yes, I took the viability of the thread to educate lurkers and participants of varying perspectives into account when saying I could go either way. Between the ridicule, the lack of any new information that couldn't be easily and clearly found elsewhere or of any real development from any points raised that are novel to some readers participating in the thread, and participation only of people who all agree, can't really say there's anything positive about that thread that would make me want to defend it from being closed beyond 'meh', especially since kazelee's repeatedly stated agenda is usually to only temporarily close these threads.

But anyway, like I said, meh, no idea why I even wrote this comment. Oh right, Red Bull.

IceCream Wrote:Perhaps it would equally be an eye opener for a creationist who beleived that what the museum was presenting as scientific fact... actually isn't. People can only make their minds up once they know the truth. Why censor such an important subject further??

Well, I really doubt the museum was going to change anyone's mind either way, but it does show you what was there if you were curious about it. I personally did learn about the Ussher chronology and the idea that all creatures were vegetarians before the Fall.

@IceCream - Why not just start a new thread, one with a certain theme for discourse stated from the onset? I agree there were some nice tangents and mini-interactions and links there, but they were rather buried and consistently side-tracked, and steeped in a certain... tone, that was established from the initial minimalistic ridicule-style comments (despite Smackle's pro-moderation cautions, which I thought were sarcastic jokes ;p). For many, especially in the UK and America, the whole creationism vs. science/atheism thing is really big and kind of a world-weariness-inducing topic on the Internets.

My point being, it's something that requires a fresh approach and energetic 'guidance', methinks, if you want to create a thread about 'creationism' (and 'abortion', etc., for example) without having them derail and get closed--though this forum is good about that, usually.