終わった！

Felt pretty similar to the July test. Lots i'm sure i got wrong; listening felt especially crap.

Now i just need to put it out of my mind until what, march? Man, i wish i knew why a computer graded test should take so long to mark.

Good luck to those still to do it.

It takes THAT long? Wow, anyways, does anyone know if there is a penalty for guessing/getting answers wrong? Like in the SAT if you get one wrong you get a minus 1/4 point to prevent guessing

zigmonty Wrote:Man, i wish i knew why a computer graded test should take so long to mark.

Take it easy on them. Since they offer the test for the low low low low price of 6000 yen/person, they can only afford to hire one feeble old man who works 45 minutes a day feeding the tests into a machine. It takes a while.

gyuujuice Wrote:It takes THAT long? Wow, anyways, does anyone know if there is a penalty for guessing/getting answers wrong? Like in the SAT if you get one wrong you get a minus 1/4 point to prevent guessing

I sure hope not. Guessing was a core part of my strategy.

I can only speak for the tests from the old 級 system, but there was no penalty for guessing on those.

The N3 went more or less as I expected, except for the grammar section (言語知識：文法） which seemed insanely more difficult than any of the practice drills I'd done, and even compared to the official N3 practice test I did in November. If I can scrape through on the grammar section (perhaps the reading section can carry me through) I think I should pass. Will have to see in February...

JimmySeal Wrote:

Asriel Wrote:@JimmySeal -- Yes, it was. Hence the "So, uh.. *cough*" bit, and the "tracking down" of "devious thieves." I guess it didn't come out as good in text as it sounded in my head.

Ah, hard to detect sarcasm on the internet with high accuracy, and that's why we have Poe's law. I beg your pardon.

mbaron Wrote:According to this site:
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/guideline/results.html

You only need 19 out of 60 points to pass each section.

I see, so I was half right. Thanks for the clarification.

Wait , wait , wait
you only need 19 out of 60 points as a minimum sectionnal part mark now ?
that's hardly a cause of disqualification (althought I don't know how the marking works )
not to mention the overall pass mark is now 100 out of 180 ? it's barely 56 percents while the former pass mark was 70 percent .
I heard lot of guys complaining about the new system and how it made the 1kyuu harder but the way I get it it should be easier .

I must have disregarded or misunderstood something .

Just back from the N2 (well it was finishedover 5 hours ago)- listening was super easy I thought, but reading was pretty hard... I tried to go slow and only finished with 5 minutes to check answers, which wasn't enough.

ghinzdra- it looks easier but it is bell curved now, so percentages don't mean as much- they base the score of each question on how well everyone did overall- if more people missed it the question is worth more points.

Just got back from my first try at N1. It was harder than I expected but hopefully I passed anyway. Listening was pretty easy, but reading was kind of brutal, I was expecting a five minute warning before time up but they just suddenly said pens down and i didn't get to guess the remaining 5 or so

Oh all you lucky people that are done already. I'm eating breakfast now and then heading off to my test site (NYC). Going to take N1.

So... anyone have any tips? ;-)

I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?
That says it all, right?

Most of you know my usual test results for N2 because I kept posting them here.
I always got an overall of 80% with listening being my strongest section (over 90%)

Well, 10h of train and bus rides and 200$US poorer I feel like crap for thinking I could actually pass N2 after so many years of studying. I hate myself for being sooooo damn stupid!

To sum it up: I'm sure that I got around 90%+ in the listening as it was a piece of cake for me as always. There were surprisingly some words in the vocab section I didn't know although I studied like crazy and was already half into the N1 vocab!!!!
Grammar was okay.
I did not as good as usual in this section, though. I guess 70-75% this time.

I completely and absolutely failed the reading, though!
At that time my fever got higher (you remember that I got sick on Friday?) and with thousands of people in one room it got so hot, too, and we were not allowed to drink anything so my concentration was completely gone. We also had people in the room who got the yellow card and stuff which also disturbed me. I had to read sentences again and again because I couldn't focus and in the end I realized I wouldn't have enough time to finish (although in all N2 mock tests that has NEVER been an issue!!) - I got panic and that was the end of it. Got to guess half of it in the end.

I wish we still had the old system, but with the new system if you fail one part you fail the whole test and there's no way in hell that I have over 50%

What a crappy 1st-time experience.
Not sure if I ever take the test again (only N1 then anyways).

I was also surprised about the number of people taking it here in Japan!!
There were 2 floors full of hundreds of people only for N2!!! I guess there were more than 1thousand and it's just one testing location out of many in Japan. UWOAH!!! :/


How did you guys do? *sigh* ....

Got back from taking the N1 in Japan. Horrible test. I was thinking about spamming the japan foundation and ask to get back the old JLPT lol.

皆さん、お疲れ様でした！

Signormu Wrote:Got back from taking the N1 in Japan. Horrible test. I was thinking about spamming the japan foundation and ask to get back the old JLPT lol.

lol those days are done, but I feel you. WTF was that whole article on the durability yet weakness of the types of wood used in Japanese architecture? Christ, I must have re-read those questions like 15 times but still could not get what they wanted.


My personal frustration here is that I rock at kanji reading and grammar in general... kanji reading is super-toned down compared to before AND for the over 200 grammar points I studied maybe 10 of them were actually in question-form on the test, at least that I could recognize. Sure, I could UNDERSTAND in the reading when they said それ言うまでもなく, but it didn't really help me with the answer. Still, I have no one to blame but myself for not knowing enough vocabulary and 熟語. There's always.... 3 years from now! (next time I'll subject myself to that monstrosity hah)

It's the same for me. I used to ace the kanji part in old tests, but now it was just 7 questions! seven! Also, I studied a lot of grammar for nothing, since that part too was toned down.. I think I totally bombed the goi part, たまたま聞いたことのない言葉がたくさんあって。。w I really don't get why they put so much emphasis on the dokkai. The 聴解　was kind of easy, but I got really nervous and I think I made mistakes in that part too.Where did you take the test? I was in Seikei University.

Also, the kokoro of the monkey. Wtf JLPT, wtf.

nadiatims Wrote:Just got back from my first try at N1. It was harder than I expected but hopefully I passed anyway. Listening was pretty easy, but reading was kind of brutal, I was expecting a five minute warning before time up but they just suddenly said pens down and i didn't get to guess the remaining 5 or so

Today was my first try at N1 or 1Q as well. I thought today's test was much harder than the July N1, except for the listening, which I found super easy. The reading itself wasn't so bad, its just that you have to read it so damn fast with the amount of time they give you. You basically have to be able to skim it and still comprehend enough to pick the right answer.

pull it! pull the lever you stupid monkey!

I took it at Kyoto U

Took mine at Saitama Daigaku in Yono

CURSE YOU MONKEY!!!!!!!!! *points finger*

I thought the listening was very manageable too. Noticeably harder than N2 for the most part... but yea the step up for 読解 section was insurmountable. I read through the N2 reading in July at my leisure and scored around 80% on the whole test, this one I was scrambling and had to haphazardly guess the last few answers.

易しかった！
But I know I made some stupid mistakes. Listening was easy too, but I think I will have several wrong.

PS: I took 4kyuu

C'mon! Am I really the only one who sucked so much??? ;o;

chochajin Wrote:To sum it up: I'm sure that I got around 90%+ in the listening [...]
I completely and absolutely failed the reading, though! [...]
...room got hot [...]
I had to read sentences again and again because I couldn't focus and in the end I realized I wouldn't have enough time to finish - I got panic and that was the end of it. Got to guess half of it in the end.
What a crappy 1st-time experience.
I was also surprised about the number of people taking it here in Japan!!

Exactly same here. Took N1　in Saitama. Panic and total loss of concentration on reading section, though its level of difficulty was the same as in imitation tests. Now I have this feeling, that I lost not to the difficulty of the test, but to myself. Looking for July to take a revenge.

chochajin Wrote:C'mon! Am I really the only one who sucked so much??? ;o;

I sucked way more than you, so you don't have to worry about being alone

My N2:
Vocab was ok for me, only a couple questions were difficult.
Grammar was shorter than I expected and could have a few trick questions but still I think it went decently.
Listening was as usual very tricky and with my note taking skills sucking as always I think with some luck I can barely be around 50% here.
Reading was horrifying, no other word for it. There were so much text, that I couldn't read more than 10% of it. I just skimmed through the rest of them half guessing answers based rather on statistical probability than any Japanese knowledge. If I get a minimum in this section it will be a miracle.

@chochajin: you don't have to worry about your 50% reading because the minimum was around 19% last time for each section.

Overall I think it went well considering the parts I prepared for, I just need more practice and experience to handle reading & listening sections. My "N2 in about a year" experiment might have failed but next December I should have a good shot at passing.

thurd Wrote:@chochajin: you don't have to worry about your 50% reading because the minimum was around 19% last time for each section.

No, it`s 19 points not percents. Nobody knows how many points each answer brings, but to be absolutely sure that you passed the minimum you have to answer 19 questions correctly, which roughly makes it about 50%.

LazyNomad Wrote:No, it`s 19 points not percents. Nobody knows how many points each answer brings, but to be absolutely sure that you passed the minimum you have to answer 19 questions correctly, which roughly makes it about 50%.

I think it's 19 points out of 60 for each category to pass the category. But I think you need 100 points out of 180 to pass the whole test.

EDIT : This is for the N1, I think the N2 has a 90 overall pass not 100. Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_La...iency_Test

I have yet to take the test. *cries*
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