”Basically it's possible that the people who already took the test tell the people in other countries about the contents of the test before they actually take it. Right?”

*Evil Grin* >:}

chochajin Wrote:Something just came to my mind (quite late, I know).
Japan is one of the first countries to have the test (timewise) - apart from Australia and some other Asian countries, of course.
Most European countries will have the test 8-9 hours LATER than Japan, for example.
Basically it's possible that the people who already took the test tell the people in other countries about the contents of the test before they actually take it. Right?
Isn't that a little bit unfair? ;P

Anyways, I'm leaving now (8h work, 4h train, bed, test), so I wish everybody good luck for tomorrow

Last year, someone also thought of the idea of taking the test in Japan and then flying to the US and taking it again- I wonder what time Hawaii has the test...

Cheaters only cheat themselves.

Another newb question: the rules on my exam ticket seem pretty strict about what to bring and what not to bring, but there isn't a comment about whether bringing a backpack is OK (assuming you can put it somewhere). I've got a bit of a trek to my test center, so I'm assuming it's alright to have a bag with other things in it which I can leave in a corner in the room or whatever... Any former JLPT test takers have experience with this?

k.

captal Wrote:Last year, someone also thought of the idea of taking the test in Japan and then flying to the US and taking it again- I wonder what time Hawaii has the test...

May as well take the test in China in that case and skip the harrowing plane ride. Cheating on the JLPT is pretty much enforced there.

For the last few years scans of the test have been on the usual Chinese forums within a few hours of the test time in China, giving an advantage to dishonest western students.

So i finally got around to doing the July test... I didn't bother scoring it properly, just calculated raw percentages. My miss rate was pretty consistent across different mark questions so it probably doesn't matter much.

Language Knowledge: 80%
Reading: 73%
Listening: 72% (real shocker as i was unsure of virtually all my answers)
Overall: 75%

I'm pretty happy with that... It's a pass by enough of a margin that hopefully its still a pass after all the bell curving etc. And none of the sections are remotely close to the sectional fail points (fairly even actually). Now, i just have to repeat that performance tomorrow (including my startlingly accurate guesswork in the listening...)

Is my understanding right in that they determine the passing rate (of the N4) after the tests have been taken and a bell curve of sorts has been established?

Also, is passing the N4 based on a cumulative score or do you have to pass each section?

Im taking it tomorrow and Im getting nervous over the listening section

Thx

So N1 is in like 9 hours for me Looking foward to it! Got N2 in July so i'm not expecting to be able to pass N1 this time round but I think I may have a shot at it.

Anyways, 頑張って！

Good luck, everyone!

@Jarvik7 -- So, uh.. *cough* just out of curiosity, what time is the test in China? And where can we track down some of these devious thieves?

dusmar84 Wrote:Is my understanding right in that they determine the passing rate (of the N4) after the tests have been taken and a bell curve of sorts has been established?

The test administrators reserve the right to move the passing score up or down, but they almost never do. Any variation in mean test scores is the fault of a glut of talented or stupid test takers, not a failure on the test makers' part to consistently make tests with exactly the same difficulty every year.

Quote:Also, is passing the N4 based on a cumulative score or do you have to pass each section?

If I'm not mistaken, ever since they switched to the N-system, you must get the passing score on all three sections to pass.

Best of luck!

Asriel Wrote:@Jarvik7 -- So, uh.. *cough* just out of curiosity, what time is the test in China? And where can we track down some of these devious thieves?

I hope you're joking.

@JimmySeal -- Yes, it was. Hence the "So, uh.. *cough*" bit, and the "tracking down" of "devious thieves." I guess it didn't come out as good in text as it sounded in my head.

JimmySeal Wrote:If I'm not mistaken, ever since they switched to the N-system, you must get the passing score on all three sections to pass.

Best of luck!

According to this site:
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/guideline/results.html

You only need 19 out of 60 points to pass each section.

Asriel Wrote:@JimmySeal -- Yes, it was. Hence the "So, uh.. *cough*" bit, and the "tracking down" of "devious thieves." I guess it didn't come out as good in text as it sounded in my head.

Ah, hard to detect sarcasm on the internet with high accuracy, and that's why we have Poe's law. I beg your pardon.

mbaron Wrote:According to this site:
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/guideline/results.html

You only need 19 out of 60 points to pass each section.

I see, so I was half right. Thanks for the clarification.

Wait what? A bell curve? SO I have to pass and be better than other students?
*mopes* I guess it will make some good scratch paper.

I didn't know there were online practice tests available. I found N2 to be a quite easier than the actual July test, I think they really want to mess with my head.

http://www.jlpt.jp/samples/forlearners.html

Just click the colorful buttons with your appropriate level.

Just 12.5h left.

thurd Wrote:I didn't know there were online practice tests available. I found N2 to be a quite easier than the actual July test, I think they really want to mess with my head.

http://www.jlpt.jp/samples/forlearners.html

Just click the colorful buttons with your appropriate level.

Just 12.5h left.

I'm off shortly- we start in about 4 hours.

Good luck to everyone- I'll report back here later!

Good luck to everyone! Mine starts at 9.30 (10.30 hours left) in the morning, I'll have to get up early because it will take me about one hour to arrive to the place -_-

Good luck everyone, mine starts in an hour and a half :O

Daaang, I'm not even home from University yet. Mine starts tomorrow.

thurd Wrote:I didn't know there were online practice tests available. I found N2 to be a quite easier than the actual July test, I think they really want to mess with my head.

http://www.jlpt.jp/samples/forlearners.html

Well, if thats any indication of how I'll do on tomorrow's test, I shouldn't have troubles. Unfortunately, the actual N1 test from July had me scratching my a head a bit more than this did...

3 hours to go in Saitama prefecture...... 頑張るぞ！

Just got to my hotel in Alexandria, just outside of Washington. I had to drive through a freak snowstorm in North Carolina to get here. Totally nuts.

Now I just have to figure out a way to relax and get into a 日本語 studying mindset. I'm all frazzled from traveling and just all-around nervous.

I even had a Fun Moment where I thought I had left my exam ticket at home. I didn't, but for 5 minutes, papers were flying when the envelope didn't show up in its expected place.

I guess I'll go hit the cramzen master a little, then do a practice test, then some listening drills or something, then sack out with some Benadryl.

では諸君、健闘を祈る！

(Don't forget your bananas and milk in the morning!)

I only have to drive 30 minutes but I have so much to get done before tomorrow. I posted some grammar questions in the forums and I am biting my nails.

皆さん、頑張りましょう！

Well N1 was considerably harder than N2! Like the first time I took ２級, im not expecting a pass. Though I feel i'll come pretty close.