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How to type【 】via Mac's kotoeri?

#1
How can one type Japanese-style【brackets/parentheses】using the Mac's kotoeri input method (System Preferences>International>Input Menu>Kotoeri). This input method works OK for me for most things, including other Japanese-style punctuation (like 。、「」『』), but I can't figure out how to get【 】. Does anyone know how to do it without resorting to cut-and-paste (the method I used for this post), or switching to Unicode input?

TIA!
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#2
【】 comes up fine for me in kotoeri using [] keys. I recommend switching to the Google IME or ATOK though.
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#3
Hmm I get「」when typing [] in kotoeri. You are looking for alt+9, alt+0.
Here is how, with standard settings, to get all bracket types...
shift+9 = (
shift+0 = )
alt+9 = 【
alt+0 = 】
alt+shift+9 =〔
alt+shift+0 = 〕
[ = 「
] =  」

you can also just type any set of brackets (),[],{},「」etc., then press the down arrow to get a list of all bracket types, and choose the one you are looking for.

Jarvik7 Wrote:I recommend switching to the Google IME or ATOK though.
Why do you recommend the change? Kotoeri seems to be really quite nice, and trackpad handwriting is useful for kanji whose pronunciation I don't know. Are there some better features which I'm missing out on and haven't noticed?
Edited: 2010-04-03, 8:24 am
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#4
Kotoeri isn't very good at giving correct suggestions compared to Google IME.
[] will give you 【】, just keep pressing space.

The trackpad recognition isn't part of kotoeri btw.
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#5
Jarvik7 Wrote:I recommend switching to the Google IME or ATOK though.
Unfortunately ATOK is only free for 30 days and I don't know where to find cracks for Japanese software.
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#6
Google IME is free and almost as good (just lacks the dictionary function and grammar correction), or you could always pay for ATOK.
Edited: 2010-04-03, 10:57 am
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#7
Thank you all for your replies! After reading Blahah's I realize that I still have a lot to learn about Mac's kotoeri 【beyond this question about brackets, that is】. For one thing, I used the Mac's Keyboard Viewer to find the values of keys under kotoeri. It turns out that this viewer does not apply to kotoeri mode, which, in hindsight, I should have suspected to begin with.

I was not able to find a keyboard layout for the Mac's kotoeri mode, at least not one published within the last 10 years at site:apple.com. If anyone knows of one ("official" or not), please let me know.

Also, thanks for the Google IME and ATOK pointers. I did not know about them. I'll check them out.
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#8
Sounds like Google IME is worth a try. And yes I forgot the trackpad handwriting was separate to kotoeri.

OP I haven't seen a keyboard map, I just experimented with the keyboard until I knew my way around. It's fairly trivial to do this. Bear in mind you can modify any key with shift, alt or both.
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