Thanks for the detailed reply Nuke.

Another question that Ive been meaning to ask is about subs2srs. I got my deck working and its set up using the anki template that is provided with the program. My question is, what is the best way to use it?

Ive been thinking about setting it up like core, with a new word written in large font and then the actual sentence beside it in smaller font on the question side and the answer side will have the kanji, English meaning and audio.


Any suggestions on my method?

If you put this in your model definition:

<a id="hintlink" style="display: inline" href="#" onclick="document.getElementById('hint').style.display='inline';document.getElementById('hintlink').style.display='none';return false;">Show Hint</a><div id="hint" style="display: none"> %(Sentence)s </div>

it should display a link saying 'Show Hint', that when clicked will show the sentence (change Sentence to whatever the name of your sentence field is obviously).

What I've been doing when I come to a word where I need the context to give the right answer, is I list all the possible words I can think of, then click the hint, and if after seeing the hint I can remember the right answer, but it wasn't one of the possible answers I came up with before looking at the hint, then I mark it wrong. This is somewhat slow, but it ensures you are using the hint for context only, and not using the sentence itself as the reminder.

Hello and thank you Nukemarine, and everyone else who has contributed this great thread / forum. So a while ago I decided to jump back into RTK and use this great guide for my japanese studies. But stupid me, I just realised I have been doing regular RTK (from the hard copy book), and not in KO2K ordering like this guide says, I'm about 300+ frames in now. So I read through this thread a bit more, downloaded the RTK 1 & 3 anki deck tried to suspend / sort the cards in KO2K_01 order but can't figure it out. Can someone help?
I am an anki n00b, but not a computer n00b.

Nukemarine Wrote:In Brief: First 2000 words learn Kana (w/sentence) to Kanji, trying to comprehend the sample sentence. Next 4000 words learn Kanji (w/ or w/o sentence) to Meaning/Pronunciation, not worrying about the sentence at all except as a "hint".

I learn with the audio to understand the spoken form of the sentence, I don't read the kana sentences. (But I can read the Kana). I really need to understand to understand spoken japanese, so I close my Eyes and try to understand the sentences.

Only unusual is, is that the speaker of the audio makes sometimes errors. Like speaking 'Sofa a' or in 2 other cases speaks a 'i' or 's' at the end of a word, but it is the beginning letter from the next word...

Sorry to bump this, but does anyone have any advice at all?
I have tried to get an RTK anki deck going in KO2K01 order, but I just can't figure it out.
Any help is appreciated.

with RTK, the order doesn't matter so much. That's why really common ones come at the end, and rather obscure ones can come up very early. The thing is to just get it all done and then move on to something else. So I don't think the ordering matters that much.

I'm reading the question as about the "RTK using 2001KO 1-555 Kanji" in the first post. This is not RTK in 2001KO order, but the first 555 2001KO kanji (plus necessary primitives) in RTK order. I don't know whether there's a ready-made deck available.

It should be easy enough to use the deck I posted on Anki then unsuspend the ones tagged "KO pt 1". You'll get just those in RTK order then. You can also sort by KO number and unsuspend in groups if you're doing initial reviews pseudo-randomly.

When things settle here, I'll finish up my "Using Dramas" Youtube set and start turning this thread into a youtube set. That should help a bit.

Nukemarine Wrote:It should be easy enough to use the deck I posted on Anki then unsuspend the ones tagged "KO pt 1". You'll get just those in RTK order then. You can also sort by KO number and unsuspend in groups if you're doing initial reviews pseudo-randomly.

When things settle here, I'll finish up my "Using Dramas" Youtube set and start turning this thread into a youtube set. That should help a bit.

Hey thanks very much for the last 2 posts guys, I am such a n00b!
I think I've got the non KO cards suspended in Anki now and should be able to get back on track, once again thank you Nukemarine for this awesome guide, I will keep following it.

Due to teaching a Kana class, I've finally got around to finishing up the "Remembering the Kana" spreadsheet available here in addition to creating an Anki deck for download called "Remembering the Kana".

Like RTK, I doubt the RTKana deck is too useful without the explanations Heisig gives to give meaning to the madness. What I like above other flashcards is this tests you Romaji word to Kana word. Although only 2 or 3 cards are made for each Kana, that future words might use that kana you're tested quite often on your memory of them all.

Ok, time for bed. Yokohama beer fest is tomorrow.

edit: Doh! I didn't notice that crimson spiral posted a RTKana deck last month on Anki. Oh well, two decks being available can't hurt.

Hey Nuke,

Before I go screwing things up with your Core deck, is it possible for me to change the way the cards are displayed? For example, if I want the kanji + sentence on the question side and Kana + English on the answer side.

thx

dusmar84 Wrote:Hey Nuke,

Before I go screwing things up with your Core deck, is it possible for me to change the way the cards are displayed? For example, if I want the kanji + sentence on the question side and Kana + English on the answer side.

thx

In the bulk edit screen (magnify glass), you should be able to select the sentences then go to "actions" and choose "change model". Change the "template" from "production" to "recognition" which should have Kanji on question side.

If you go to deck preferences you can change up how the card itself displays information. That's a good way to remove info like images as time goes on that you find give away the answer too much.

Note: You can also choose "generate card" which allows you to create a different card template while keeping the original card.

Sorry I see that this question was asked before in the last page, but I am still having a hard time setting up the sound to go with Core 2k/6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner. I downloaded the sound pack you give and I made a new folder like "\Documents\Anki\Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner.media" and put all the sound files in there, but when i click the button in Anki to play the sound I don't hear anything. So any idea what i am doing wrong? All the sound file names are also all just random numbers, so I don't know if the file names have anything to do with it.

Thanks

I guess bump, not sure if anyone can help me with this or not?

Thanks

3 things I can think of right off

1. Put the media folder in the same folder as the anki deck itself (with same name).

2. Make sure the model you're using actually produces sounds.

3. Check whether the sounds files match the ones present in the deck. There are two sets of sound files. One has files with short names that begin with the letter J. It is possible they are mixed.

Thanks for your help.

So with 1, it looks like this right now

\Documents\Anki\Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner.anki
\Documents\Anki\Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner.media

Is that right?

For 2, sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean, I'm not sure what a model is.

And for 3, there is no sound files with a name that starts with J. The sound files mostly look like "00aa06ee3c3a3c434b390418650eaaf9.mp3" for example. So I don't know if that's the problem or not.

Again thanks

Ghoro Wrote:For 2, sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean, I'm not sure what a model is.

And for 3, there is no sound files with a name that starts with J. The sound files mostly look like "00aa06ee3c3a3c434b390418650eaaf9.mp3" for example. So I don't know if that's the problem or not.

You should check anki documentation on the wiki to get a better understanding of it, as it's quite useful to know the ins and outs since you'll be using it so much.

Also, the sound filenames are usually checksums, thus the weird (albeit pretty standard) names.

Ghoro Wrote:Thanks for your help.

So with 1, it looks like this right now

\Documents\Anki\Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner.anki
\Documents\Anki\Core 2k6k Japanese Vocabulary - Beginner.media

Is that right?

For 2, sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean, I'm not sure what a model is.

And for 3, there is no sound files with a name that starts with J. The sound files mostly look like "00aa06ee3c3a3c434b390418650eaaf9.mp3" for example. So I don't know if that's the problem or not.

Again thanks

That looks right to me. Are you sure the sound is being played (the model contains sound)? When I just fired up the kore deck for the first time in a session, my pc often takes a long time to play the first sound (it seems as if it has to loop through all sound files in the folder first). Perhaps wait some time if the sound starts to play? Any following sounds should play immediately.

Thanks and yeah I can click the button, but nothing happens. I tried clicking it and then just let it sit there to see if what you said KanjiDevourer would work, but still nothing

Any other ideas of what may be going on?

Thanks

how do i acquire the Kanzen Master Two sentences? link?

You should search (and post) in the "kanzen master" topics.
But you have to buy the book and send photos to someone.

I just took the JLPT N4 over the weekend and happy that I can close that chapter of my life. I learned a lot by studying for it but it wasnt the most stimulatiing material nor do I feel like my actual production is getting that much better. I want to dive back into Subs2SRS again, after viewing Nuke's youtube videos on how to set it up a few months back it seems like the next step. Has much changed since those videos? I remember he kept referring to future releases fixing some issues. Also, what card set up would you recommened to focus on production? Im fairly happy with my vocab and listening now but for the life of me cant produce it.

Thanks

This feels like a rude request to make, but due to injury I can't type up the sentences from KM2 myself, so forgive me:

The KM2 thread seems to be dead. I bought the book in mid-November, contacted skinnyneo for the spreadsheet, and never heard back. I'd be so grateful if someone could help me. I have a picture of the book with my username. Thanks.
(The KM2 thread is at http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=2878&page=1 )

Sorry I dont have an answer for your question.

My question is for Nukemarine. I recently stumbled across some of your old posts on the movie method for learning onyomi and have taken quite an interest in this method. How did you find it now looking back? Is it something worth pursuing to someone who has already well completed RTK?

Thx

dusmar,

I found it useful even in the limited way I used it. A number of people on this forum posted about how they went back after RTK and learned Onyomi in a systematic fashion, so there's nothing unique there. Honestly, it's worth pursuing learning them in some manner. A mix of context with vocabulary and movie method seems to be a good combination for those that finished RTK already.