vinniram Wrote:With the km series , about how much of the content from the do*jg series does it cover . By this i mean to Say, Does km give example sentences for most of the various things covered in the dictionary series ?

Yes, but there are fewer and the grammar explanations are more brief. I see KM as more of a starting point, to get the gist of things, and Do*JG as the place the go to develop a more complete understanding.

cangy Wrote:

loonytik Wrote:I am messing around with this but I am confused what the #lookup-sentences is supposed to do? I tried to run it through the .sh script but I think it failed=/ What is supposed to happen after you runned it through the script? also is the lookup-sentence an important feature? or is it not necessary?

it's already included so you don't have to do anything -- the link is just there for reference -- see the fields example for what it contains, but basically it just saves you having to look words up manually (shows transitive/intransitive verbs etc.) and helps in separating the words in the sentence if you have trouble with that

loonytik Wrote:also I placed the audio of the vocab and sentence both on the back side. But the sounds play right after eachother. Is there a way to stop that?

you could add a silent track to your template between the other two

Awesome ty for the answer!

that silent track is a nifty workaround hehe.

I downloaded the shared deck from Anki and maybe I'm missing something, but where do I find the audio? I was hoping to use this as a shadowing deck and for some light exposure. I've searched the forum and Google, but I'm not coming up with anything.

Javizy Wrote:I downloaded the shared deck from Anki and maybe I'm missing something, but where do I find the audio? I was hoping to use this as a shadowing deck and for some light exposure. I've searched the forum and Google, but I'm not coming up with anything.

See http://ankisrs.net/docs/ContribFugounashi.html#kore , the links are in the text.

KanjiDevourer Wrote:

Javizy Wrote:I downloaded the shared deck from Anki and maybe I'm missing something, but where do I find the audio? I was hoping to use this as a shadowing deck and for some light exposure. I've searched the forum and Google, but I'm not coming up with anything.

See http://ankisrs.net/docs/ContribFugounashi.html#kore , the links are in the text.

Seems like I did miss something. Thanks for the tip.

Javizy Wrote:

KanjiDevourer Wrote:

Javizy Wrote:I downloaded the shared deck from Anki and maybe I'm missing something, but where do I find the audio? I was hoping to use this as a shadowing deck and for some light exposure. I've searched the forum and Google, but I'm not coming up with anything.

See http://ankisrs.net/docs/ContribFugounashi.html#kore , the links are in the text.

Seems like I did miss something. Thanks for the tip.

You're welcome.

Perhaps it was mentioned somewhere already, but I frequently encounter words in kore that are kana-only whereas they ususally are in kanji. I do find checking this costs quite some time, but then that is study time as well and it works for me. You could also ignore this, just do the deck at a quick pace and correct the kana words to kanji later on. I'm even checking for Heisig 3 ji and hyougaiji and will probably only selectively learn those as they come in my vocab.

**EDIT** actually it seems extracting the data from the html file isn't as bad as I originally thought, but it still would be nice to have a proper download link.

Perhaps there's been a change to anki's wiki system, but the download links for the data seem to be broken (it just loops back to fugounashi's contrib page). You can see an html view of the data just fine, but it's not trivial to extract the original data from the html page due to all the formatting mixed in the data (eg, span tags and many characters are escaped, like "&lt" and "&gt").

Is there anyway someone could post a link to the kore data file? Or perhaps see why the wiki's link no longer works.

right click. save as works fine for me ^^'

loonytik Wrote:right click. save as works fine for me ^^'

Could you post the url of the link?

overture2112 Wrote:**EDIT** actually it seems extracting the data from the html file isn't as bad as I originally thought, but it still would be nice to have a proper download link.

Perhaps there's been a change to anki's wiki system, but the download links for the data seem to be broken (it just loops back to fugounashi's contrib page). You can see an html view of the data just fine, but it's not trivial to extract the original data from the html page due to all the formatting mixed in the data (eg, span tags and many characters are escaped, like "&lt" and "&gt").

Is there anyway someone could post a link to the kore data file? Or perhaps see why the wiki's link no longer works.

If nothing else: I'm using ClipboardFusion for the purposes of scrubbing leading/trailing spaces and HTML formatting from my copy/pasted information. I just hit a hotkey after ctrl+c-ing something and it scrubs it, then I ctrl-v as normal to paste plain unformatted text.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what you're actually doing here, I just saw something about formatting being mixed in with what you want .;p

nest0r Wrote:If nothing else: I'm using ClipboardFusion for the purposes of scrubbing leading/trailing spaces and HTML formatting from my copy/pasted information. I just hit a hotkey after ctrl+c-ing something and it scrubs it, then I ctrl-v as normal to paste plain unformatted text.

That seems handy. I ended up just writing a small script to scrape the data from the html and remove the formatting since I wanted to add some fields from nukemarine's deck (eg, sentence image and some tags) anyway, but otherwise that would have saved me some time.

The link should still be fixed for anyone else that wants to pull the data, though.


-- Detailed explanation
http://ichi2.net/anki/wiki/ContribFugounashi#kore is the link in the OP's post, which point's to a page with a list of various utilities. This page has "download import file: kore-1.7.txt" link, which points to http://ankisrs.net/docs/ContribFugounash...7.txt.html, which is a page containing the data inside some square box and has a link at the top with "Download", which points to http://ankisrs.net/wiki/ContribFugounash...re-1.7.txt, which loops (redirects?) back to the Contrib page.

Ergo, the link is broken.

mmm your right. I saved it a while ago with right click etc... now the link is borked indeed.(FAIL for me for not checking )

Damien Elmes Wrote:Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:02:21 +0900
Subject: Re: wiki going away

Ok, I've generated static pages of the wiki content and set up the old
links to redirect there. If you need access to the source of the wiki
pages and the attachments from those pages, you can download them from
http://ankisrs.net/download/wikicode.tgz

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Damien Elmes wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The wiki is a source of confusion to many users, who try to log in
> there to get to AnkiOnline, or to upload decks. The wiki's also not
> conducive to offline help, which I'd like to add to Anki in a future
> release. So I'll be taking the wiki down soon, but leaving a read-only
> copy of the pages available so previous documentation links are not
> broken.
>
> AnkiDroid should be able to move their wiki pages to their Google code
> hosting. The docs will eventually be moved into the Anki sources, so
> updates to things like the FAQ could be done via git. For the few
> other pages, please host the content elsewhere like on a free Google
> sites page, and let me know if you want the original pages to be
> updated to link to your new hosting area.
>
> Cheers,
> Damien
>

I haven't had a chance to move anything yet, but I guess you can get the attachments from the above link for now...

Okay, I finally have kore up and running, audio and all, in Anki. Did my first reviews yesterday. Just wanted to say a big thanks to cangy for making kore available. Thanks also to everyone who provided tips on how to set kore up.

Posts I found particularly helpful in this thread that may help others who don't quite understand how to get the deck up and running:

Kubelek: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...4#pid92314
Nukemarine: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...0#pid94030
Asriel: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...#pid111321

I finished RTK earlier this year (woo hoo!) and next wanted to work on vocab/readings. I had done a bit of KO2001 on smart.fm and was going to dig into that in earnest but now my internet access here at home has gone spotty on me, so I was looking for an offline alternative. I came across this thread and after much reading and troubleshooting, I can now begin my vocab journey in earnest.

Thanks also cangy for adding JLPT info to the kore file; that allowed me to order my list from JLPT 4 to 1 (with a secondary sort of the vocab within each JLPT level in "alphabetical" order, so that compounds that share initial kanji are grouped together). I'm not studying for the JLPT, but I found that level 4 vocab is a nice representation of very common words that I want to make sure to know, and then it progresses from there.

This doesn't allow for i+1 sentence progression but I'm just focusing on the given vocab word when I review. I definitely include the sentence (in the answer section), read it, and shadow it for accent/intonation practice, but it's not essential that I know every word in the sentence as I figure I will come across most of the unknown words in due time as I move through the deck. The grammar of the example sentences is also simple enough that with the provided English translation, I can easily figure out what corresponds to what and understand how the keyword works in the sentence.

So anyway, I hope to be able to come back after I've made some progress and give some feedback on what kind of impact studying the deck has made on my reading ability. (I'm at advanced beginner level at best at this point and have to look up just about everything when I try to read native Japanese material. It's more decoding than reading at this point).

I'd love it if others provided feedback as well; is there a thread where people talk about their results with core6k? Stuff like that always motivates me.

Hey everyone,

I'm currently busy doing RTK and I'm planning on starting core2k6k after I'm finished with it, but I'm a bit confused. Should I use this deck? Or should I use the separate ones in Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners? I guess I should do them in ko2001 order as suggested, but does that mean I shouldn't do the ko2001 deck afterwards?

Love this forum btw =)

seppukuh Wrote:Yeah, the problem with xxfurigana comes from the plugin (and the original furigana support, too, afaik) expecting a space before a 漢字. (Which is especially annoying if you have a plugin that removes leading spaces, like I do, or like someone mentioned, use HTML tags.)

The following version should fix this by also allowing a ">" before 漢字. It's a bit stupid and there probably should be a better way, but it works without issues for me.

Replace the xxfurigana file in your plugin folder with this one:
http://gist.github.com/540764

I'm trying to use fbigtip on my question card and if the first character in the field is a kanji then I get that class="fma7640b2c440ee634"> error... Anyone else using fbigtip without spaces out there?

So I've been trying to get the sound files for the sentences to work. I downloaded the sentence audio from the link on the anki webpage. I've copied all of them into a folder called "Kore.media" (my deck is called 'Kore'). I'm not sure what else I have to do to make the sound work. The "Kore.media" folder is in the overall "Anki" folder. If someone could tell me if I'm missing something really obvious, I would appreciate it. I have kept the "sentence-sound-local" field for all my cards. In the "answer" field in the template, I had it as: %<sentence-sound-local>s, at the end of all the other fields I wanted displayed in the answer. Thanks if someone can help me with this issue.

vinniram Wrote:So I've been trying to get the sound files for the sentences to work. I downloaded the sentence audio from the link on the anki webpage. I've copied all of them into a folder called "Kore.media" (my deck is called 'Kore'). I'm not sure what else I have to do to make the sound work. The "Kore.media" folder is in the overall "Anki" folder. If someone could tell me if I'm missing something really obvious, I would appreciate it. I have kept the "sentence-sound-local" field for all my cards. In the "answer" field in the template, I had it as: %<sentence-sound-local>s, at the end of all the other fields I wanted displayed in the answer. Thanks if someone can help me with this issue.

Is the kore deck in your overall anki folder as well? As long as the media folder and the deck are in the same directory it should play.

Thanks alot Cangy, this is great!!

Sorry I can't help anyone with their problems.

mpacheco Wrote:

seppukuh Wrote:Yeah, the problem with xxfurigana comes from the plugin (and the original furigana support, too, afaik) expecting a space before a 漢字. (Which is especially annoying if you have a plugin that removes leading spaces, like I do, or like someone mentioned, use HTML tags.)

The following version should fix this by also allowing a ">" before 漢字. It's a bit stupid and there probably should be a better way, but it works without issues for me.

Replace the xxfurigana file in your plugin folder with this one:
http://gist.github.com/540764

I'm trying to use fbigtip on my question card and if the first character in the field is a kanji then I get that class="fma7640b2c440ee634"> error... Anyone else using fbigtip without spaces out there?

Could you clarify whether you mean fbigtip isn't working with the patched version of the furigana plugin on github (ie, you've removed the old one and downloaded and placed the new one in your plugins directory)?

kerosan41 Wrote:

vinniram Wrote:So I've been trying to get the sound files for the sentences to work. I downloaded the sentence audio from the link on the anki webpage. I've copied all of them into a folder called "Kore.media" (my deck is called 'Kore'). I'm not sure what else I have to do to make the sound work. The "Kore.media" folder is in the overall "Anki" folder. If someone could tell me if I'm missing something really obvious, I would appreciate it. I have kept the "sentence-sound-local" field for all my cards. In the "answer" field in the template, I had it as: %<sentence-sound-local>s, at the end of all the other fields I wanted displayed in the answer. Thanks if someone can help me with this issue.

Is the kore deck in your overall anki folder as well? As long as the media folder and the deck are in the same directory it should play.

Yeah, everything is in the anki folder. I'm not sure why it's not working though... guess I'll have to tinker around some more.

With all the problems that seasoned anki pro's seem to have with this, I don't even want to bother trying...

I guess I will enter the sentences manually one at a time as i finish iknow >.>

vinniram Wrote:So I've been trying to get the sound files for the sentences to work. I downloaded the sentence audio from the link on the anki webpage. I've copied all of them into a folder called "Kore.media" (my deck is called 'Kore'). I'm not sure what else I have to do to make the sound work. The "Kore.media" folder is in the overall "Anki" folder. If someone could tell me if I'm missing something really obvious, I would appreciate it. I have kept the "sentence-sound-local" field for all my cards. In the "answer" field in the template, I had it as: %<sentence-sound-local>s, at the end of all the other fields I wanted displayed in the answer. Thanks if someone can help me with this issue.

The same thing happened to me, everything was set correctly but audio and images wouldn't show up. I couldn't get it to work until I deleted .media folder, opened up Anki, added random sound for one card, saved, and then copied audio files to newly generated folder. There shouldn't be any difference, but now everything works as intended

mate, you're awesome I did exactly what you said and it works like a charm Thanks a million!!! I think I can finally stop mucking around getting kore to work, and actually start *using* it now

vinniram Wrote:mate, you're awesome I did exactly what you said and it works like a charm Thanks a million!!! I think I can finally stop mucking around getting kore to work, and actually start *using* it now

I'm glad to hear that Good luck!