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Travelling to India & Asia, any tips?

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I'm going to work as a volunteer in north western India this summer! (well mid April to mid July most likely so I may leave just before the "moonsoon"). I'm such a wussy, haha, I'm going in the warm season, won't have to pack a lot of clothes :p

I will be staying at a Tibetan Monastery in Dharamsala. Well that's the sales pitch, I have no idea what it will look like Big Grin

I haven't travelled much, only once beyond Europe really, which was Japan in 2007, but Japan is just so safe, for kanji learners you hardly feel lost at all right? But India... O_O I looked up the language the other day, and the writing system is madness, looks more complicated than kanji Wink I think I'll stick to audio.. Sad

Anyway my question: I'm looking for a good forum with travelling tips to Asia, tips to travel safely with a portable computer and so on.. Do you have good recommendations? WikiTravel is awesome but I don't know of good related forums.

Or personal recommendations for travelling to India, experiences to share? This could be very helpful, thanks!
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India is a pretty poor country, so be prepared for some (a lot) of culture shock.

And by poor I mean child beggars with no hands or feet. Plenty of 'em.
Edited: 2010-02-23, 6:23 pm
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Since you will be staying in a monastery, learning the Tibetan alphabet is a must.
If you think going to Asia in the summer is for wusses, well, be prepared to sweat!
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I live in the southern part of India, a city called Chennai formerly known as Madras and it is one of the safer places to live in India. I have never been to the any of the northern states except West Bengal and the only city I have ever visited in the North was Calcutta and it was quite a dreadful experience.

India is really huge and the language keeps changing with the state as each state has its own official language but if you know a little bit of Hindi its quite easy to get by anywhere in India except the rural parts where people dont really understand Hindi. Heck, I cant speak Hindi either (shame).

English is enough to get by in all of the big cities. And make sure you keep your personal belongings with you all the time since well, they will defenitely get stolen if you are not too careful (unlike Japan where its really safe)

Cant think of anything else at the moment since IceCream and the others have spoken about most of the other things I wanted to speak about. If you ever drop by Chennai, send me a mail and I would be glad to take you around town ^^ Currently I am in Japan though and will be returning to India by the end of March.

@IceCream: I travel by bike all the time, you will eventually get used to the chaotic traffic Tongue
Edited: 2010-02-23, 10:03 pm
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bodhisamaya Wrote:Since you will be staying in a monastery, learning the Tibetan alphabet is a must.
Great idea!

IceCream Wrote:(...) it looks like dharamsala is one of the places in india that has a less manic feel about it
Yeah, it seems to be a place popular for spiritual seekers, it's got meditation courses, yoga, "reiki", Buddhist philosophy.. Tibetan cooking!

Hmm I haven't applied for VISA yet, so many papers to sort out. Hopefully the 6 month tourist VISA will work out, after reflection I think I'll try to stay for the whole summer season, despite the crazy rain (at 3:48, after it has a funny dog-chasing-monkey bit).

It works out great here, I leave my current appartment which has serious problems, very noisy neighbours, and after giving my note of leave at work they said the doors are wide open for me when I come back Smile So I'll just ask a MAC when I come back to have a better work 'puter and I can renegotiate my salary hehe Smile

Squintox Wrote:India is a pretty poor country, so be prepared for some (a lot) of culture shock.

And by poor I mean child beggars with no hands or feet. Plenty of 'em.
Dharamsala is in the very north west of India, I think it'll be less of a shock there. But that's an interesting topic. I feel better now passing by beggars here in Brussels since my 3rd meditation course. I always had some kind of guilt feeling before. Also reading more spirituality books.. there are interesting quotes about ego and charity and so on. For example, you don't go somewhere to help people, it's like taking the assumption that these poor people need your help. But you go there to help yourself, and help others at the same time. It would be lying to oneself to pretend you go to help others.

I have a Japanese friend who works in Africa for NGO's I believe, but it's like a job for her, she's paid, she had to pass exams and present projects like a research paper, what she would do there in villages in Africa, and it would have to be accepted before she can go so it's not volunteering. Anyway.. I'm more attracted to Asia than Africa but also for a long time I wondered what her motivations were. Sometimes I wondered if her job was more meaningful than mine, if I was wasting my time..

But from a spiritual point of view I think, unless your "charity" work helps you wake up from the mass unconsciousness.. it has a purpose otherwise, it's just another job, like a role that you play. It has a limited and temporary outcome.

You can go save children in Africa all day and the poverty remains because of mass unconsciousness. That's why the spiritual seeker who chooses to live the monk's life is changing the world too, by changing themselves. Besides while they're in their temple, they're not fighting a stupid war, or pretending to be "products of society" while slaving away at a job they don't care about to buy the latest fancy XBox...

So that's a very long winded way to say that I could be shocked by some poverty in India, but I don't think I'll feel the guilt I used to even just a year ago. EDIT: my point really being: without the need to "harden oneself" which I always thought is not the answer..

IceCream Wrote:if you haven't already been to the doctor, go and get your injections and stuff soon
Will do! Do you remember the vaccines you took? I tentatively marked down Hepathitis A and B, and Typhoid. Malaria seems very unlikely far up north and at altitude.

IceCream Wrote:It's definately the place that feels the most foreign out of all the places i've been
What.. you mean more than Japan ?! (O_O) hehe

IceCream Wrote:the colours, smells, sounds, everything is so intense there
You know when I went to Japan I thought the sky was the bluest sky EVAR!! And all the flowers were so beautiful and colourful and everything was so more lively and bright and saturated. Wink

Since then I've reflected this is probably an effect that, as a result of being in a completely different environment, your mind does not label everything straight away, you in fact get a little inkling of the state of mind that some long meditators get, the state of mind of being simply present, and seeing things like for the first time, without the cloud of thoughts and habitual patterns. I really think that is it.

I think for the people who live there, the flowers, the scents, the sky.. it's all blurry and their day to day routine, they don't perceive it in the same way anymore. So there's an invitation to be present, and a good reminder that the grass is not greener on the other side.. but snaps, travelling is much easier than sitting on a cushion and doing Vipassana Wink

IceCream Wrote:Luckily the light wasn't so bright in darjeeling, so i could half open one eye by that time to navigate the windy mountainous streets to find a chemist & a hote
Lol, sounds like you had a memorable trip to India! There's a "ayurvedic" hospital I think in Dharamsala, did you try any of those local/traditional medicines there?

IceCream Wrote:its going to be amazing, and you won't ever forget it!!! ^_^
Thanks!

Well I hope I won't catch some nasty thing, my main worry would be allergies. I've had some random allergies since a couple years which required strong anti histaminic :/ I guess I'll have to pack up some medicine to be on the safe side.
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Squintox Wrote:India is a pretty poor country, so be prepared for some (a lot) of culture shock.
And by poor I mean child beggars with no hands or feet. Plenty of 'em.
ファブリス Wrote:Dharamsala is in the very north west of India, I think it'll be less of a shock there.
Within the Tibetan people, if you get close to some, you will be shocked in other ways. Everyone has a story of atrocities committed by Chinese soldiers they can tell. When Lama Rinchen, the head lama at the Honolulu Dharma Center escaped Tibet as a teenager, his parents and siblings were shot as punishment. When you see a group of newly arriving refugees, they will often be a smaller group than when they left Tibet due to snipers along the border.
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#7
Bring cash. Lots of it.
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#8
Travel safe/Hope the trip went well, Fabrice.
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#9
Yeah, all is good Smile

I've just connected today for the first time in India, spent more time with the host family and organisation here since Thursday. Finally found this internet place very close where I can connect the laptop. I've been writing a few posts as "Draft" emails that I can edit offline, then I will send them off to http://fabd.posterous.com tonight or soon after.

Sunday is off. I haven't started volunteer work here yet because the particular association that can use web skills was not available last Friday. I've been to the Dalai Lama temple, Sat morning there were celebrations. He gave a speech for the 50th year of settling in India, thanking India and Himachal Pradesh representatives on this occasion.

Once I get the hang of this I should be able to connect more regularly.

All the best,

Fabrice
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#10
I never pictured you as bald..
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Jarvik7 Wrote:I never pictured you as bald..
Are you kidding me? All cool people are bald, there is even scientific evidence to support it (any kind of hair gets in the way of awesomeness) Smile
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thurd Wrote:
Jarvik7 Wrote:I never pictured you as bald..
Are you kidding me? All cool people are bald, there is even scientific evidence to support it (any kind of hair gets in the way of awesomeness) Smile
Sucking up to admin, you've won a free internets!
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#13
Maybe you could introduce kanji using the RTK method to kids over there in your down time helping with programming projects.
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@bodhi: I've shown the website to VolunteerTibet and the other NGO, but I'm not sure they're really interested in Japanese over here. They want to learn english primarily, also french, german, and so on, because monks apparently go work overseas to bring money. Others learn for pleasure.. I've exchanged a bit of french with a Tibetan guy in a small restaurant. He was reading a french/english book while I was slurping "tukpa" noodles.. testing his pronunciation of "au revoir", "je vous remercie", and so on Wink
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So recent topics got me wondering: how's stuff going with Fabrice?

Edit: Oh: http://fabd.posterous.com/ ;p

Hope donations are working out.
Edited: 2010-05-23, 4:34 am
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#16
I like the Quiet American album that you mentioned on your blog (free download). Great relaxation / meditation music.
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nestOr Wrote:Hope donations are working out.
Yes, thank you! I posted an update on this May 11 (on the site news). Since life is cheaper around here, donations in May have covered approx. 70% of my costs for May! Thanks again!

@Eikyu: I'm happy you enjoyed the blog posts!
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