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#1
Ok sorry for the cheezy copy cat title, but I wanted to get nest0rs attention specifically, since there was no e-mail link. I'm happy to change title, or delete the thread if you want.

The reason I'm posting is I was hoping you could direct me to a few good scientific, peer review journal articles regarding, memory, encoding, spaced repetition etc. Reason being, I just got a work-study at my university through the psychology dept. Part of my job (and the main reason I got it) is to come up with a presentation to teach students about SRS. My first step is to gather some research, and while I do have some good stuff and can hunt around on my own, I was hoping you could show me a FEW of the best, as I know you have extensively looked at the science behind all this. As I only have limited time for some basic research, I was hoping you could point out to me a FEW of the very best.

どもありがとう
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#2
hey Nest0r, please do my work for me too!
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#3
Not asking for Nest0r to do my work for me, but for help. I'm pouring through journals but I'm only given a short amount of time to do this. Nest0r has read hundreds of articles and probably can point me in a good direction.
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wccrawford Wrote:hey Nest0r, please do my work for me too!
Must every thread degrade into a flamewar?
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alexsuraci Wrote:
wccrawford Wrote:hey Nest0r, please do my work for me too!
Must every thread degrade into a flamewar?
No shit, Taylor-san just wanted some advice. No harm in that.
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#6
I don't think I've ever posted peer-reviewed journal articles, only books and papers I found via Google*. For those, I simply tried to focus on sets of keywords that people have used over the years as the notion of SRSing has evolved (see links at bottom for examples: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...1#pid81701). Come to think of it, I think I posted most of the decent stuff in that thread. I no longer have access to my university stuff for journals so it's a bit of a sore spot for me. ;/

Also: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...7#pid38977 (my first attempt at a 'primer' of links)

*Okay, technically many of those papers and even book sections were from peer-reviewed journals. Come to think of it, I seem to recall posting chains of responses from multiple authors debating in a single journal.
Edited: 2010-02-18, 3:31 pm
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#7
Oh, here's another link I mentioned as a keyword to Magamo once but I think I never posted it--it was in the context of what you could do with SRS related to other types of memory, and though I've since focused on sensorimotor memory via above mentioned links, I'll post the 2 I mentioned before:

Spacing and the transition from calculation to retrieval http://timrickard.com/Papers/rlp2008.pdf

Linking Implicit and Explicit Memory: Common Encoding Factors and Shared Representations: http://www.arts.uwaterloo.ca/~jdancker/N...n_2006.pdf
Edited: 2010-02-18, 3:56 pm
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#8
You might find stuff every now and then on http://5z8.info/enriched-uranium-supply_...count-xfer
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#9
Smackle Wrote:You might find stuff every now and then on http://5z8.info/enriched-uranium-supply_...count-xfer
Even though I know the truth (http://www.shadyurl.com/ - 'Don't just shorten your URL, make it suspicious and frightening.'), I just can't bring myself to click it.

Oh wait: http://www.unshorten.com/index.php
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#10
Alright I knew I could count on you! I will check them out tomorrow during "work" hours!

@Ice - I will check out Supermemo this weekend. I hope to become somewhat of a SRS 専門家. Before I was too lazy too as anki is my best friend, but know that I'm in this position, I can put some time into checking it out. Heck I may even use it!

I watched the entire Olympic programming in primetime last night.....Shaun White is simply incredible. I have watched him ride since he was a kid and he is still getting better. A man among boys, and these riders are badasses in their own right! I felt bad for the 日本人 riders (can't recall names) they looked so good, but just couldn't stick those last tricks!

I'm really enjoying the Olympics in general (to a bit of a detriment to J studies I must admit). The boarder-cross was really fun to watch too. I'm not too into the "go USA" thing personally, I just like seeing people achieve their dreams, and compete at the highest level. And I can't help but root for Japan (so close to medals a few times!).

頑張り日本!

Thanks a mill Nest0r!
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#11
Thanks Ice.

Yeah I will check it out tonight (it must be on taped delay). It's funny in the last Olympics, one of my good friends girlfriend won gold in halfpipe (ex-gf now). I had met her when they came to my town for the Olympic trials, but I didn't know she was dating my buddy until I read a Post Olympics interview where she was talking about him....and then I opened up ESPN magazine and there was a picture of him chillin with here LOL. It was just funny cause I grew up with this guy (who is a crazy rider in his own right) and there he was in the national media. When they came through town I met her again, and she's a goofy chick, but seems pretty cool. Of course they broke up somehow, and I never bugged him about what happened......

It's a small, funny world I guess.

Can't wait to see how the women do (did).

And I sure hop Japan can pull a medal in something! Those figure skaters look like they got a shot.
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Yeah that's her. I did'nt know that, good for her (I will be rooting for the lass for sure).

I never did start riding until my mid 20's. I call ride pretty strong and I LOVE powder, but my technical riding sucks and rails/huge jumps scare the crap out of me. I'm not ballzy or talented - no health insurance is also a factor LOL. I do have several friends who are crazy good. They are basically snow bums, ride 6-7 days a week, and enjoy a pretty fun lifestyle. I did it for about four years, but then I decided I wanted to experience different things, so I haven't gotten to ride hardly at all the past 3 years (ever since I came to Colorado - ironic!). Uni, Japanese, and..... Japanese take up almost all my time now (plus the mountains here are 1-2 hours away with NO bus system, not as easy as a 20 min hitchhike like back on my home mountain). I really hope that wherever I land in Japan, I can go riding!

But those Olympians are on a cray level,you have to be insane to do that shit, and pull it off consistently. And people like Shaun White and Travis Rice are on an even crazier level. It's really fun to watch.
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#13
Everyone's going on about this Olympics thing, what's that about. Is it a big deal or something? ;p All I know is I read about some people protesting it because of the social/financial problems/costs?
Edited: 2010-02-18, 10:29 pm
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#14
Yeah that was good. The Aussie girl really killed it, but it was nice to see Hannah pull silver. Watching Men's figure skating now - GO JAPAN!

I'd love to live in Hokkaido. If I could get some kind of job as a DJ at night, and ride during the day it would be a nice dream to live LOL. But I'll see where life takes me...

It is hard sometimes to not be in the mountains, but I'm ok with it for the most part. For years I worked at night on the mountain cleaning (best slacker job of all time - getting paid peanuts to clean for 2 hours and take naps and watch movies and do whatever the other 6-7 hours...if only I had stated learning Japanese back then! LOL) and got to ride all the best powder days.....sigh.

Getting hurt can sure suck the confidence out of you - I just got hit by a damn car on my bike yesterday, and I don't think I'll be riding my 自転車 for a few days (I wasn't hurt too bad, but it scared the shit out of me).

Yeah ruiner that's the other side of the Olympic coin. I love the games, and it's amazing to see people live their dreams, but there definitely is a dark side.

Wow I though that Wier kid got robbed, but I think this means the Japanese skater is assured a medal!

EDIT - Nice. I was afraid they were gonna give it to the Russian (skate judges are shadey) - But Lysacek won! And a Bronze for Takahashi!!!!!
Edited: 2010-02-19, 1:12 am
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@IceCream I guess the problem is the people who don't think it's worthwhile. I have no immediate vested interest in the concerns of the protestors (varied as they are--homeless issues? I don't know, the media's only coverage seems focused on small groups of violent protestors, or that lip-synching Chinese girl), and am used to thinking of the Olympics as bloated, corporatist, nationalist, generic, etc., so I'll simply continue with rolling my eyes all around. Hell, I didn't even know these Vancouver Olympics were more than a Canadian thing until a couple days ago. Like, I thought it was 1)regular Olympics, 2)Special Olympics, 3)Canadian Olympics.. ;p (Not my personal ranking, as I would place #2 at #1... )
Edited: 2010-02-20, 2:01 pm
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#16
A lot of the protesters for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics oppose the seal hunt.
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shirokuro Wrote:A lot of the protesters for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics oppose the seal hunt.
Eww, is that one of the events?
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#18
Yeah I'm loosing a little respect for the Russian skater, after he bad mouthed Lysacek. 50% of the score is based on the other stuff besides the jumps, and the Russian really was not anywhere close to the other top 5 skaters as far as grace and style. Some of his jumps were sloppy too, just because he pulled a quadruple doesn't mean he should win. He's being egotistical IMO. LOL, I never thought I'd get into ice skating, but it was pretty interesting to watch. And those Japanese guys were really great.

I think you have to have some kind of genetic/brain chemistry no fear (or less fear) of pain thing to do that stuff. My friends who are all really good also do crazy shit like pull back flips off 90 foot cliffs into the river (side note: if you're ever in Oregon in the summer, the Illinois river is paradise). Why would a person want to do that??? Most human beings would never try it, or if they got hurt from something, would stop doing it (3 concussions? that's insane!).

As passionate as I am about snowboarding, I found that being a bum is a bit depressing as the years go by. I want to do more in the world, and experience new things. That's why I'm working my ass off in school and in Japanese studies. Not as fun, but in the long run I think it will be more rewarding, and more fun, then if I had stayed where I was, in a comfort zone that went nowhere. Many of my friends are still doing that, and while it may be the best thing for them, it's not for me. I'm really pretty stoked I get to learn Japanese too! And like I said, maybe I can have the best of both worlds someday (Hokkaido!!!!).

This is the first time I've lived in a big city (big for me). It's weird - I miss nature! The mountains are right there, but with no car, and really no time, I'm resigned to city life. But it works for this stage of things, which is focused on preparation to go to Japan.

If you do get a job at a Japanese resort that would be a fun experience! Try to work at night if you can (being a groomer would be fun) so you can ride the best days.
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ruiner Wrote:
shirokuro Wrote:A lot of the protesters for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics oppose the seal hunt.
Eww, is that one of the events?
I was just surprised that no one had mentioned these protests, since they are being led by groups as vocal as PETA. I was not trying to indicate partisanship or imply that I oppose the Olympics based on issues related to animal rights.
Edited: 2010-02-20, 2:36 pm
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#20
@shirokuro I didn't interpret your comment that way (i.e. as anything beyond providing links). I'm actually surprised though, Wikipedia's really sparse on the opposition section to the 2010 Winter Olympics. They're usually my go-to people for when information is fragmented, it works well as a kind of self-historiographic pop timeline.
Edited: 2010-02-20, 2:41 pm
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@ruiner: Oh, OK, I just thought I should clarify what I'd written. And yeah, I'm surprised by how little Wikipedia has on it, too. Actually, when I was looking for information on opposition to the 2010 Winter Olympics, the animal rights protesters had been the first group I'd heard of. ;p
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TaylorSan Wrote:Yeah I'm loosing a little respect for the Russian skater, after he bad mouthed Lysacek. 50% of the score is based on the other stuff besides the jumps, and the Russian really was not anywhere close to the other top 5 skaters as far as grace and style. Some of his jumps were sloppy too, just because he pulled a quadruple doesn't mean he should win. He's being egotistical IMO.
Agree for the ego part. However, if you look at the actual results, Lysacek and Plushenko got the EXACT SAME component results (82.80). The judges clearly thought that his choreography was equal to Lysacek's (whether others agree or disagree is another matter). The real controversy is the way the new system hands out bonus marks. Because
Lysacek backloaded his performance with jumps, he received more bonus marks than Plushenko (3 vs. 5 I believe) whose jumps came at the beginning. This despite the fact that Plushenko's jumps were harder. While it is true that he leaned on a couple of his jumps, it looks to me (not a big skating officianado, just looking at the results page) that he got one jump deduction vs. Lysacek's two. Plushenko's not the only one upset about this either.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/20...story.html

I think the consensus is that if these new rules were back in place when he was skating, Stojko wouldn't have won either.
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*assumes the tireless rebutter android voice* Technically the Special Olympics (official name) are different from the Paralympics, and I find the term 'paralympics' to be, in the context/connotations (and the purpose of its coinage) of particular types of disabilities, to be offensively narrow. In fact, they felt the same once participation broadened (thanks for the info Wikipedia) and 'redefined' it (not that it works for people with that connotation in their mind--I immediately assumed it was referring to paraplegics) so that the 'para' refers to it being in parallel with the Olympics (which I like the idea of, hence my rankings joke).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralympic_Games
Edited: 2010-02-20, 3:33 pm
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#24
Yeah, well, I didn't phrase that quite right. Choreography is one of five categories in the component score, so while Pluschenko had better skating skills, performance and interpretation, Lysachek had better choreography and transitions. What you're saying definitely makes sense about being more tired. I guess my real problem with the system is that it's kind of discouraging working for a quad. You hear these skaters who can do them in interviews and something like 50 percent of their training goes into perfecting the quad. What this result says is that if you skate your component just as well as an opponent and land your quad, along with all your other jumps (albeit not perfectly), you'll still end up second best if you do them too early in the program.

TBH, I don't even really care about quads, half the time I can't tell whether they're doing a triple or quad. It just seems to me like athletics should be about risk taking and pushing to be the best. Since the quad is the most difficult move, all things being relatively equal, the quad should win.
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#25
Wow! Are you watching this Ice? Mao Asada was amazing!

EDIT- But Damn Kim really killed it! This will be a good final I think.
Edited: 2010-02-24, 12:13 am
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