Jarvik-

You did not answer my question. You basically said you don't like shared exercises. Not what I asked, but I'll be sure not to send you any.

I thought - and still hope - this forum was open to all. But if some people don't think so， that's their business. I'll simply take my requests elsewhere and leave you in peace.

Please stay at least a little while. I love your snappy sense of humour, even though I think your persona here is unlikeable overall.

wtf is a shared exercise?

I said what you want doesn't exist and why. My likes or dislikes did not enter it. Try again for comprehension.

You can be a baby and whine about the lack of material that suits your ideal, you can go make it yourself, or you can make do with other material.

The kind of material you want isn't compatible with your goal though. Inefficient (if thorough) study material does not lead to quick improvements.

mc2mc Wrote:I thought - and still hope - this forum was open to all.

Except your threads of course.

I've not heard of what the OP wants either. Sounds like he wants a collaborative super memo? (Multi sided cards that he can download from a crowdsource similar to smart.fm maybe)

I don't think you'll find that pre-made, but there's no reason you can't make it yourself. If you can recruit some users to switch from anki to a multi-sided card program, you might be able to get a group project going to make materials like that.

mc2mc Wrote:Jarvik-

You did not answer my question. You basically said you don't like shared exercises.

Jarvik7 Wrote:wtf is a shared exercise?

I'm on the floor

vgambit Wrote:

mc2mc Wrote:Jarvik-

You did not answer my question. You basically said you don't like shared exercises.

Jarvik7 Wrote:wtf is a shared exercise?

I'm on the floor

I believe floor exercises are usually solo, rather than shared.

OK folks - shows over. This is basically turning into a huge waste of everyone's time.

You can argue all you want amongst yourselves, but I'm out of here.

See you on another forum - or not.

I'll miss you.

My English has definitely improved thanks to you, mc2mc. It's like the virgin girl hunt thread greatly helped improve my reading speed. Actually I'm starting to like you. Hmm, maybe I should lay off the tsundere.

I'm not a serious learner at all. I can't even think of when the last time I actually studied Japanese was. There still is a place for me, and perhaps for you as well. The defining difference between us is tone.

Maybe you do not set out to offend at first, but when others take your words to be abrasive, you instead retaliate with personal attacks instead of calmly rephrasing. Fighting fire with fire is never as good a strategy as simply making amends with the fire (if it gains sentience).

I don't want to have to assume you'll attack me for this post, because you probably are more mature than I think you are. After all, you're a parent and a seasoned teacher, and I'm a teenager on the internet.

Edit: Okay, I posted too late.

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vgambit Wrote:

mc2mc Wrote:Jarvik-

You did not answer my question. You basically said you don't like shared exercises.

Jarvik7 Wrote:wtf is a shared exercise?

I'm on the floor

I believe floor exercises are usually solo, rather than shared.

Does laughing count as a solo exercise?

TC: The people here are giving you good advice, and instead of thanking them, you insult them and ignore what they tell you. Then when we call you on it, you say you would rather keep flaming out of this topic and have people limit their posts only to those that help you. You go to a Japanese language-learning forum and tell people that you have better things to do than learn Japanese. You outta be banned in such a way that you can still make posts, but they don't actually appear for anyone but yourself. That way you can brag all you want about how many years you spent teaching languages and how we don't know anything about learning them, and you won't have to bicker with us when we disagree with you.

My mindset was at least somewhat similar to yours at one point. I had decided to start learning Japanese. I learned the hiragana (using a chart), and promptly forgot most of them a week later. Tried jumping into kanji using the Basic Kanji Book and Mnemosyne, and promptly got burnt out the next day (mostly because I was trying to learn multiple meanings, the kunyomi, onyomi, example compounds, and stroke order all at the same time). A while later, I decided to give it another go, and stumbled upon alljapaneseallthetime.com, which led me here. I read about the different methods people took and decided Heisig + Supermemo (and later, Anki instead) was for me.

The point is, I went and tried stuff until I found a method I liked. You will need to do the same if you want to go anywhere with this language self-study business.

Also, unless you actually want people to hate you, you're going to have to make a huge change in the way you post. Before you hit that submit button, ask yourself if that is how you would talk to your child, wife, or other loved one you hold most dear. Keep editing your post until the answer is yes. I guess this might be mistakenly assuming you aren't a dick to your family, though...

Edit: After he makes a new account and starts posting again, I wonder how long it'll take for him to mention "the blind leading the blind?"

Well at least the they livened up the forums while they were here. I haven't seen threads grow this fast in a long time!

I enjoyed it! Two thumbs up! A good read.

Haha, I forgot about the virgin hunt. I wonder if he lived happily ever after.

magamo Wrote:It's like the virgin girl hunt thread

woah, woah, woah back up the truck. Where was I when this went down?

@Mezbup I might be wrong but I think this is the thread http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=3512

Back on topic (though the OP claims to have left):

I'll be making a clozed deletion deck from the Kanzen spreadsheet in due time. Essentially, I cloze off the part that deals with conjugation of the verb/adjective, ie the kana part, while leaving the grammar point intact. To answer I just have to know what the sentence is conveying on top of properly conjugating based off the grammar point. Hopefully I won't need English at all as the Kanzen spreadsheet has the grammar description and conjugation rules as columns.

What I found did NOT work was trying to use English in all the spots like I did with Tae Kim. Works wonderfully in the beginning (ex: Was a cat, did run [polite]), but as you get into "JLPT 3+" area of Essential, Special and Advanced there's too many variances where the English has to be detailed.

Not exactly what the OP was asking about but I think this way works better as it removes the need for English for testing Grammar. Just one of the benefits a Kanji based language offers.

His first post was to share a sweet website so it was all good
http://www.n-lab.org/library/mondai/index.html

I want to write something witty here. Mostly I'm just disappointed. I can only begin to image the type of environment that fosters this need to defend against even the slightest 'perceived' remark so vehemently.