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Progress in Japanese (Constructive criticism is welcome)

#26
Yea i'm considering doing a vocab deck. Because alot of sentences i encounter i do not understand b/c of the words in them, not the whole context.

Basic grammar is easy for me, intermediate i can definitely do now. But advanced stuff like you'd find it news sites are still kinda ahead of my level. But in a few months i'm confident i will have the abilities to understand them all!
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#27
Ok i wanted to ask people for help on this topic. I'm fairly confident at the rate i'm going i can get to a high level in reading+understanding. So that leaves speaking+writing. For now i won't focus on speaking(until i get a language exchange partner or something). Lastly there's writing. I'm going to make a seperate deck for kana to kanji. To train my memory of specific kanji. I wanted to ask people, what things should i put in that deck? random sentences or maybe a frequency of kanji for most common things that a written+typed in japanese? I want to focus on my writing skills+memory of kanji skills now more than ever. I've heard alot of people that have reached a high level in reading+speaking+understanding, and could easily type what they wanted to say in high levels. But when it came to writing down kanji in form of context, they had trouble(handwriting i mean). I'm asking what things could i do to improve on this skill more than anything. Write more? lots more? Thanks in advance! You guys are always helpful and resourceful!
Edited: 2010-02-08, 10:12 pm
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#28
Still a great recommendation I received about 4 months ago for pen pals is Shared Talk. I've met two Japanese friends that I highly value through this website. With one of them we are even thinking of rooming together when college is out of the way (so in 2 or 3 years). My only problem is that we barely speak Japanese, but that's entirely my own fault. I need to get my ass into gear like you did, and just mine the shit out of everything and immerse myself.
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#29
I do SRS alot of things. In total for the way i'm going i';ll be probably have 10 decks in total for japanese. No more, no less. I'll outline my decks later, cuz i'm lazy right now. But to give you an estimate my reviews so far for all my decks for daily add up to 1000-15000 review daily. And i just do immersion as much as possible. I want to train my writing+speaking skills. If i can get these skills up and running. I'm confident in some high-level japanese abilities!!!
But this is what will have
1. drama deck-for drama sentences+interesting drama phrases,etc
2. 10,000+sentences deck standard ajatt. Also contaiing interesting sentences+Grammer points,etc.
3. Vocab deck containing necessary for basic stuff, then will add more grammer from JLPT levels
4. Tae-kim grammer deck. I still have 90 more cards left to do, but been lazy(will merge this will 10,000 sentences after a while)
5. Remebering the kanji deck standard to review
6. Another kanji deck, i do very very slowly
7. Japanese kana
8. Contain all core 6000 sentences+kanji oddyssey sentences, will do this one slowly, so i wont' be over doing my reps.
9. Deck for kana to kanji. To help me remeber basic kanji in context,etc. Necessary things to remeber
(That's it basically, so in total once i merge one of my decks, it will be 8 decks, not 10 sorry for my mistake, that's what i'm planning on doing. So i'll add two more decks to my standard decks. Aside from that, i just do immersion in sites,anime,manga,games,television,news,dramas,etc as much as possible, although i need to get more drama's and watch wayy more news!)
Edited: 2010-02-08, 11:59 pm
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#30
ta12121 Wrote:But to give you an estimate my reviews so far for all my decks for daily add up to 1000-15000 review daily.
ta12121 Wrote:add up to 1000-15000 review daily.
ta12121 Wrote:1000-15000
ta12121 Wrote:15000
:-|
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#31
To be serious for a second, if SRS is working that well for you then by all means go for it. But are those numbers realistic or sustainable? I've never heard of anyone's daily reviews being in the thousands. Sincerely curious here.
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#32
@Blank
Here's how it works. In the beginning first few months i thought that adding more would help me. But it didn't i was overwhlemed so i decided i better make this smaller or else i will hate japanese learning. So i made the amount smaller. Like 50, so i can do that and maintain around 200-300 reviews when the time come up.
But once i got the hang of it, and i felt my japanese was good enough to understand the context, i increased the amounts. As for it sticking in, it varies. In the beginning my japanese in reading+understanding wasn't high. But in these 5 months i have gained the advantage of understanding 90% of animes, the other 10% is b/c of vocab and specific words that are used for the animes.
The reviews are easier for me to handle b/c i can understand alot of the majority of the sentences. I try to keep all sentences within context i know. So that way i can blaze through them. Remember that i do not write them out(alot of time consuming for this, so i'll make a seperate deck as i described above). I read them+understand+decode if necessary. So when the same sentence or context pops up in subtitles i can easily remember them or decode them on spot!
It's a matter of preference to be honest. I feel i can do it, b/c I've gained the abilities to. If i was doing this as a beginner i'd go insane. But it steadily increased and i got used to it and enjoyed it overtime. Since i follow ajatt and methods described in this site. It has helped me alot. It sticks cuz i keep immersion up 70% of the day if possible. I know there's school work+other things to do. But the immersion helps alot. I may be extreme in some ways. But this might not be effective for some people. It all varies between people. Remember that doing high numbers doesn't always guarantee high japanese. I'm doing this b/c i can, not much people can handle this much. I can do this all in 1-2 hours and rest i do is immersion and even when i have school work+studying to do. I just leave it on as background music. So it all varies.
Edited: 2010-02-09, 12:10 am
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#33
@Blank
you have to remeber that these are the TOTAL numbers of reps for ALL my decks. Not seperate ones. So some are around 100, some around 400, some less then 50. But these all do add up to 1000+ daily i've been noticing nowadays. But remeber more doesn't always mean good things. For me i can handle it, so i can do it. The SRS has helped me in reading kanji easier now. Although i still have ways to go. I definitely going to get there for sure.
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#34
Wait wait... you are saying you do 1000+ reps daily, and you complete them all in 1-2 hours??
It takes me an hour to do 100-200...
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#35
@Zarxrax
For half of my decks, it's pretty easy to do in 30mins tops. And the rest it takes me longer, but those cards that are new, and therefore need time to decode. But nowadays decoding has become easier.
Also to note, i do not write my reviews, i'm making a deck to specificlly train that skill more. I used to write almost everything down. But that is just time consuming. I can write kanji fairly well. But i'd rather just do it on a seperate deck.
Edited: 2010-02-09, 1:24 am
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#36
ta12121 Wrote:I want to focus on my writing skills+memory of kanji skills now more than ever. I've heard alot of people that have reached a high level in reading+speaking+understanding, and could easily type what they wanted to say in high levels. But when it came to writing down kanji in form of context, they had trouble(handwriting i mean). I'm asking what things could i do to improve on this skill more than anything. Write more? lots more? Thanks in advance! You guys are always helpful and resourceful!
Here's my humble suggestion which is not backed up with experience. Start some sort of writing journal on paper-you can write whatever like or are able to. When you find you don't know a how to write a kanji you need/can't remember the kanji at all, you can look it up and make a production card for it if necessary. It should also help you find weaknesses in grammar and vocab along with kanji.
Edited: 2010-02-09, 10:18 pm
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#37
@yukamina
Thanks for the advice. I'm currently flowing that outline. What i plan to do is invest in some of these books to help me in my journey of writing.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%...4789006646

and this
http://www.amazon.co.jp/Writing-E-mails-...gy_b_img_b

One reason for this is that. It's designed for natives for natives. So it will be useful to learn and decode. P.S. does anyone have any pdf files for writing journals? explanations of writing formal Japanese+non-formal Japanese?
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#38
On another note. For some odd reason today i just had a sudden jump in understanding+reading for some reason. I noticed this as i was playing this ps2 game called onimusha. I could read 98% of the option menu+understand almost everything i heard in that game so far. Even today i was re-watching some old things that i haven';t watched in a while and for some reason i just understood it way more.
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