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How do YOU study using a pre-made deck?

#1
Ok, so I've finally finished Tae Kim and starting on 2001KO. I'm using the downloable pre-made Anki deck with audio and images, but sorted in order of kanji frequency (see "kanji word progress" thread).

Anyway, just out of curiosity I'm wondering how people actually use pre-made decks. At the moment I've set it to show me 20 new cards a day after reviewing, and for each I just look at it, play the audio a few times then mark each one as "failed". Then I drill the failed cards until I get all the readings, after which I mark it as "hard".

I'm not sure if this is optimal as I've only been doing it one day, lol. Iverson method seems good, do a lot of people do that?
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#2
Usually on a deck like that I set the settings where I have to write the answer to match the hiragana reading of the whole sentence.

So when a card comes up like...

それは、実は作り話だったが、私はその話を本当であるかのように子供に話した。

I have to type all that nonsense into hiragana to check my reading abilities.

それは、じつはつくりはなしだったが、わたしはそのはなしをほんとうであるかのようにこどもにはなした。

Hit enter and if everything lights up green I put in good or easy. If I make a serious mistake I'll fail it. If I make a stupid mistake I'll grade it as hard.
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#3
You must be moving at a slow pace, or you have genetic immunity to burnout. I can't imagine doing text input for my 300~500 daily cards.
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#4
Yea I don't do that many full sentence cards every day. Usually 50 or so.
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#5
Womacks23 Wrote:Yea I don't do that many full sentence cards every day. Usually 50 or so.
Yikes, that' still quite a lot.

Do you do the hiragana entering thing when reviewing, or only when you're adding new cards?
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#6
aphasiac Wrote:
Womacks23 Wrote:Yea I don't do that many full sentence cards every day. Usually 50 or so.
Yikes, that' still quite a lot.

Do you do the hiragana entering thing when reviewing, or only when you're adding new cards?
This is for premade decks I have and don't do this for everything I study.

But there is a certain amount of detail that gets forgotten when you don't make your own decks and I believe typing the whole sentence out gives some of it back to you.
Edited: 2010-01-17, 7:23 am
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#7
I don't, I find vocab/sentences from my exposure to Japanese and add that. The only pre-made deck I use is the RtK deck which I simply use because I imported my progress from this site to Anki.

I don't think I could properly learn if I was just fed stuff automatically from a deck someone else made.
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#8
Having to type out 50 sentences a day does seem rather arduous. Can't you just say it aloud and then check if you said it correctly?
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#9
resolve Wrote:Having to type out 50 sentences a day does seem rather arduous. Can't you just say it aloud and then check if you said it correctly?
Not if I'm studying at work....

I don't think 50 sentences is arduous at all. Depends on which deck I'm working with. KO2001 is easy and takes 20 minutes. 1kyu grammar takes forever.
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#10
Depends on the pre-made deck:

RTK - decide on a story, write out the kanji thinking of the story, mark it "hard" so I'll see it the next day. For review, I draw the kanji in my head and only write down the ones I miss.

Grammar - Read the reason for the sentence, type out the entire sentence, mark it "hard" so I'll see it the next day. For review, I usually type out these sentences which are tested with kanji anyway.

Vocab - Write out word, the kana of the word, and the example sentence. I'll mark it hard so I can test it the next day. For review, I write out the word being tested in my head, and write out for real the words I miss.

Subs2srs - if it's worth keeping, get definitions for any new words or phrases and add them. I mark these as normal.

I think the process I do at the beginning let's me "own" the card as if I made it myself. From time to time I change up how I review, usually to make it faster when it seems to become tedious.
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