How long after completing RTK1 can you stop reviewing it? I ask this because i doubt that native speakers are constantly "reviewing", but that the exposure is sometimes sufficient in helping keep the Kanji retained in memory.
2010-01-08, 4:32 pm
If reviewing gets too boring, I don't think there's anything wrong with stopping your kanji reviews. Exposure should be enough to maintain literacy. You might not be able to write the kanji as easily, but making production cards should be able to fix that. 
2010-01-08, 4:32 pm
I stopped about a month after finishing. Granted by the time I finished I had reviewed most of it to maturity. Still, I would say in hindsight I would have rather kept reviewing and just stuck it out as my skills have somewhat declined when it comes to the rarer kanji but then again that's kind of a common thing.
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2010-01-08, 4:42 pm
Wish I could stop - I finished RtK in September, and still have 50 reviews a day 
2010-01-08, 4:43 pm
Here's my comment in a very similar thread: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...0#pid58650
2010-01-08, 4:53 pm
aphasiac Wrote:Wish I could stop - I finished RtK in September, and still have 50 reviews a dayYikes, really? Then why don't you just stop? Wouldn't most, or all, of your cards be mature already? And doesn't it get confusing to associate kanji with both actual Japanese words and English keywords?
nest0r Wrote:Here's my comment in a very similar thread: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...0#pid58650Hehe, this forum needs a list of frequently asked questions. ;p
2010-01-08, 4:57 pm
aphasiac Wrote:Wish I could stop - I finished RtK in September, and still have 50 reviews a dayYou could just do 10 reviews a day (if you're using anki). You don't have to do the recommended number. The stories stay with you for a long time so there isn't much to worry about when it comes to forgetting.
2010-01-08, 6:41 pm
I stopped reviewing for about six months -- and regretted it. The percentage I'd completely forgotten were maybe just 1-2%, and they were characters that I didn't have a decent mnemonic for / didn't learn properly in the first place. Far from declining, my reading ability has obviously been improving, but I found that writing the characters quickly when reviewing again was quite difficult. You really have to strain those rusty old connections in your brain.
My reviews were down to just 10-15 per day before I stopped. Maybe you need to be pressing 3 or 4 a bit more if yours are still 50 after so long.
My reviews were down to just 10-15 per day before I stopped. Maybe you need to be pressing 3 or 4 a bit more if yours are still 50 after so long.
2010-01-08, 7:46 pm
SRS spaces cards out however far they need to be spaced out, so there's no need to ever stop reviewing. If you get a card right four or five times in a row, it will be scheduled several years into the future.
2010-01-08, 8:51 pm
After a while, your cards become mature enough that's it probably worth deleting them. I have cards in my deck which won't under review for another 3 years, and it's mostly quite simple stuff that's been hammered into my brain already. It's also pretty likely that I'll come across the card, or something similar just in everyday reading/ Japanese exercises anyway
2010-01-08, 10:03 pm
harhol Wrote:SRS spaces cards out however far they need to be spaced out, so there's no need to ever stop reviewing. If you get a card right four or five times in a row, it will be scheduled several years into the future.I'm using this websites SRS. If I ever cant remember one, it goes back to the first box...
2010-01-09, 1:29 am
Here's where you can do a "it depends".
Let's say you use Anki. Further, let's say you use anki with separate decks for Kanji, Vocabulary, Grammar and Sentence Mining. Let's further say that your vocabulary deck does Kana to Kanji testing. Let's further say you only count wrong issues with the vocabulary word for that sentence. Let's further say you mark cards wrong should you get the kanji wrong (almost a Japanese Keyword to Kanji test for RTK?). Well, do you really need to test in RTK cards for Kanji that are being tested for real in other cards?
Ok, now let's say after RTK you went head long into studies and soon began devouring real Japanese material (reading and watching everything). Well, you're getting so much exposure to Japanese, it's almost unnecessary to worry about common RTK cards.
On the other hand (see, it depends), if you're studying or experiencing Japanese slower than others then keeping it in an SRS can be beneficial. It's those rare kanji used in names and flowers and trees and fish and kana-ized words that you don't see all the time or don't have in your vocab or sentence decks that'll be lost without an SRS.
So how do you trim kanji from RTK? Well, just run a kanji count of your vocabulary deck and/or sentence deck (if you do kana to kanji testing of sorts on them). Sort those into RTK order, then go through and suspend (or delete) RTK cards for them. After that, you now know cards tested in RTK are cards you're not being tested on in other decks.
Similarly, if you're reading/watching loads of Japanese, use the wikipedia kanji frequency list and remove cards that cover a XX%. Start with 50% and suspend all kanji that make up that. After that, begin gauging if during RTK reviews if you're seeing kanji to often in the wild. That's an indicator to suspend more cards (55%, 70%, etc.).
Every month or two, do another purge.
By the way, I don't do the above but I've been tempted now and again. The average spacing of my RTK deck is over a year, so I can just do catch up reviews once a week.
Let's say you use Anki. Further, let's say you use anki with separate decks for Kanji, Vocabulary, Grammar and Sentence Mining. Let's further say that your vocabulary deck does Kana to Kanji testing. Let's further say you only count wrong issues with the vocabulary word for that sentence. Let's further say you mark cards wrong should you get the kanji wrong (almost a Japanese Keyword to Kanji test for RTK?). Well, do you really need to test in RTK cards for Kanji that are being tested for real in other cards?
Ok, now let's say after RTK you went head long into studies and soon began devouring real Japanese material (reading and watching everything). Well, you're getting so much exposure to Japanese, it's almost unnecessary to worry about common RTK cards.
On the other hand (see, it depends), if you're studying or experiencing Japanese slower than others then keeping it in an SRS can be beneficial. It's those rare kanji used in names and flowers and trees and fish and kana-ized words that you don't see all the time or don't have in your vocab or sentence decks that'll be lost without an SRS.
So how do you trim kanji from RTK? Well, just run a kanji count of your vocabulary deck and/or sentence deck (if you do kana to kanji testing of sorts on them). Sort those into RTK order, then go through and suspend (or delete) RTK cards for them. After that, you now know cards tested in RTK are cards you're not being tested on in other decks.
Similarly, if you're reading/watching loads of Japanese, use the wikipedia kanji frequency list and remove cards that cover a XX%. Start with 50% and suspend all kanji that make up that. After that, begin gauging if during RTK reviews if you're seeing kanji to often in the wild. That's an indicator to suspend more cards (55%, 70%, etc.).
Every month or two, do another purge.
By the way, I don't do the above but I've been tempted now and again. The average spacing of my RTK deck is over a year, so I can just do catch up reviews once a week.