#1
I've kind of hit the RTK doldrums. I'm currently at 850 kanji and frankly I'm having a hard time going on. I'm trying to do 30 a day, but then everytime I do a review and fail 25+%, I get discouraged.

What other japanese stuff would you guys suggest doing in the meanwhile? Vocab? Should I start on sentences? I've taken 3 semesters worth of japanese so I have a bit of grammar and vocab, but still not enough to do anything useful.
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#2
Smart.fm core 2000.

Use the site to learn the words and then use anki to retain them.
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#3
I got really sick of doing nothing to kanji, with RTK, so after I hit 900 I stopped adding things to my RTK deck unless I saw them in real life or in a sentence deck. I started on the Core2000 deck because I wanted to actually learn something I could use. Whenever I come across a kanji I don't know I add it to my RTK deck. This makes it a whole lot easier to remember, and a lot of the times I don't even bother adding a mnemonic device to the card (I do if I have trouble remember the kanji later on though).
Edited: 2009-12-28, 4:57 am
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#4
Ah sweet. I started on the Core 2000 deck. It's pretty nifty so far -- I'm running over kanji that I've met in RTK Smile

Thanks! I'll keep doing the two in tandem Big Grin
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#5
If I forgot Japanese because of brain damage or something and were to learn it again, I'd watch/listen to visual and audio materials like anime, dramas, and movies. I'd also do passive listening as much as possible. I guess it's not very effective when it comes to learning vocabulary, grammar points etc., but it works fairly well for learning phonemes, intonation patters, rhythms, etc. This way, even if you quit RtK before finishing it, you can be good at listening. Besides, it's more fun.
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#6
Oh, I've seen plenty of anime, trust me ^^
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#7
Haha. Then I'd start turning off subs when I re-watch them. And I'd saturate my life with Japanese sounds so I hear (not necessarily listen to) Japanese almost 24/7 nonstop. This way even if I got burnt out during the RtK phase and this method was ten times slower than other learning techniques, my Japanese would still improve as fast as when if I seriously study 2 hours a day. If it was 100 times slower, still it'd worth about 10 minute intense study per day. I guess it'd alleviate anxiety a lot to think it's totally ok to wait until I regain my motivation as long as I don't turn off the audio.

Of course I don't think I'd be able to literally hear Japanese 24 hours a day, but this is compatible with other learning materials. So if it was like 8 hours a day, still it'd be as good.
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#8
magamo Wrote:And I'd saturate my life with Japanese sounds so I hear (not necessarily listen to) Japanese almost 24/7 nonstop.
AJATTと言う悪名高い技みたいですね。 Big Grin
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#9
KREVA Wrote:
magamo Wrote:And I'd saturate my life with Japanese sounds so I hear (not necessarily listen to) Japanese almost 24/7 nonstop.
AJATTと言う悪名高い技みたいですね。 Big Grin
あはは、確かに。AJATTとかいうどっかの悪名高いブログの言ってることそのまんま。
とはいへ、効果があろうが無かろうが関係なくノンストップリスニングすると思う。
やらない理由はないし、子供の頃から今までに楽しんだアニメとか映画とか、音楽とか全部もう一回
新鮮な気持ちで楽しめるわけだし。AJATT方式じゃないと全部消化するには人生は
ちょっと短すぎるかな。

Ahaha. Yeah that's exactly the same as what the guy recommends. But I'd do that regardless of its effectiveness. I don't see any reason not to. Besides, if I were to relearn Japanese, that would mean I'd be able to enjoy plenty of awesome anime, movies, music and so on I grew up with again. I don't have enough time in my life to consume them all again without going AJATT.
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