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Just need a quick run-down. Before I start I want to explain my situation.
-I've finished RtK1 and review a little bit every day.
-I started KO2001 a couple days ago. I do 5 kanji everyday (up to 15 sentences a day).
We've also went through the first Genki book in Japanese class, but it's been so boring I think I lost most of the essential information. Anyway, I also started to do "Japanese for Everyone," a fairly old book that I bought a revised edition of. By lesson 8 I'm not sure if I'm having fun, so I might try out Tae Kim which I previously attempted but didn't get far. That being said, I want to finish all of Tae Kim and mine sentences.
Okay, now my questions.
-How fast should I realistically complete Tae Kim? A lesson a day? Two lessons a day? More?
-What sentences should I mine? The ones on the lessons themselves, or on the review sheets?
-Anything else I should know? If you have a good tip for structure of the Anki cards I would listen, otherwise I'll structure them how I've been doing KO2001 sentences.
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- Three or so lessons a day (including reading the lesson itself) is a relaxed pace but, like always, you should just do as many as you feel comfortable with.
- Only the first few lessons have review pages and they all have the same structure, don't bother with these.
- You can download a deck from the "shared deck" option with the sentences already mined, save yourself some mining time and use that.
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3 a day? damn.. =(
I do one a day and it's hard.
How long does 3 a day take you?
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One lesson a day should be fine - there really aren't that many lessons to begin with, and they cover a pretty good amount of material. I believe Nuke's shared Tae Kim deck has a little over 800 cards, so it isn't particularly massive, either. You may also want to consider taking IceCream's advice and skipping the whole SRSing part, only referencing the guide as you need to, which I personally advocate, if only to avoid the pitfall of SRS Overload.
That said, grammar really isn't anything you can rush through... One year later, Japanese grammar still makes my head hurt. But then again, I'm a dufus! YMMV.
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Add me to the "don't SRS Tae Kim, just refer to it when you need to" group.
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I never actually studied Tae Kim. I read through it casually a few times to become more familiar with what to expect in the wild. When I see something I don't understand I'll look it up. I think it's easier to learn by doing than by trying to memorize the rules. And Tae Kim's example sentences are often way too simplistic and lack context. My suggestion is don't treat it like a textbook. When you get bored, move on to something else.
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When you're vocab is literally zero, I think ko2001 is a little tough...
And you can't really just read through Tae Kim without understanding the vocab he uses (but there isn't THAT much vocab since he tries to reuse most of the words)
So I'd be glad to use some other sources for sentences.. but everything else looks a lot scarier at this moment =)
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If you don't want to learn vocab in isolation and want some easy starter sentences, you could always try mining a site like YouTube where the terms are familiar:
おすすめ動画 = recommended videos
XXXの他の動画 = XXX's other videos
この動画を共有 = share this video
テキスト コメント = text comments
スパム報告 = report spam
チャンネル登録 = subscribe to channel
X時間前 = X hours ago
利用規約 = terms of use
etc
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I've been SRsing Tae Kim, and although I'm learning the grammar quite well, it's quite boring and it doesn't help in the slightest with production (i.e. I can't remember *any* of it when I actually try and speak).
Due to coursework I've missed around 2 weeks of reviews and am now 200 cards behind - honestly I'm thinking of just reading the rest of the guide and then going straight into 2001KO.
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Unfortunately, it's not going to help you with production, that's not what the SRS is for. Long term memory and active memory isn't the same and the "collateral gain" isn't high enough, especially for a beginner. You should try to ignore it. Get good comprehension then start reading and watching. THAT helps a lot more with getting stuff into active memory.
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I've checked out Tae Kim's site and saw that there are two guides, a "complete guide to japanese" and a "guide to japanese" (I also read the two guides introductory sections--but based on that I could not came to a conclusion concerning my doubts).
As it is mentioned in the "briefing" on Tae Kim's site the former is in "it's still in the very early stages", so I don't really know which one I should pick (as there are no indications--that are visible for me--on the "completeness" of this "complete japanese" guide).
FYI, I've just finished RtK1 and will start RtK2 alongside with one of Tae Kim's guide.
So, I really want to know if I should just stick with the "guide to japanese", because that's more of a finished/polished "product". Thanks for your answers--if there will be any, hehe ;)
And yeah, I'd probably be better off asking on Tae Kim's forum, but 1) I don't want register there just for this, 2) I welcome an advice from a fellow Heisig method user more than anyone's.
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The "Grammar Guide" section is what we are all refering to when we talk about Tae Kim. There is a shared grammar guide deck that is downloadable in Anki, if you want to SRS it.
The "Complete Guide" is new (thanks for pointing it out) and probably worthy of it's own thread (I may start one).
EDIT: by the way, to follow on from my previous post above, I have gone back to SRSing Tae Kim. However my style is unusual, in that I'm not learning the readings for the kanji compunds; instead I just use RtK to remember what they mean in English. At this stage I don't want to learn words without having audio that reforces it (seems a waste).
I did try and start KO2001 without Tae Kim, but I found the amount of new information overwhelming. This approach is far more smooth..
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