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I usually say something like
いやいや (this might me a local thing), 全然違うよ!<informal> or 違いますね <polite>. And make flustered hand and face gestures. Its totally fine/expected to go against someone like this even if its their opinion. You'd be amazed at how Japanese people will beat themselves/their family/group up in situations like this.
The only problem I have in Japan is when its something very trivial like chopstick abilty, cos its stupid/patronising to deny this if Im sitting there eating.
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This reminds me of あきれる. I tried to explain its meaning to IceCream on irc, and I failed miserably. Well, translation is an art, isn't it? I think I have a better grasp of "squirm," "shy," and similar words in English now. Thank you guys!
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Lately, I use 「いや、まだへたくそです〜」
I'm not sure how "natural" it sounds though...
Before that was 「いや、まだ小学一年生みたいです〜」
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Wow Thora - That looks like some great information. I checked it out briefly, but I will look at it more when I have time.
So I used the "まだまだ" - And got a reaction of surprise that I did not expect. "Oh - that's how Japanese people speak! Etc., etc......" and she enthusiastically said it was a good way to respond, and gave me more compliments to which I was still unprepared to respond to (I only memorized the one simple one). At that point I had to come clean - "Uh...yeah I went and learned about that so I could make a good response to your compliment (more flustered awkwardness)." - So we kind of had a laugh about the whole thing.
I definitely think the social/cultural "become Japanese" factor is one of the most interesting aspects of the whole process.
皆さん Thanks for all the posts ー With time I'll be developing more from the suggestions here. From where I'm at (2 months into my very first chance to speak Japanese, with a LIMITED vocabulary at my disposal) the most simple things are still super challenging. I sound like a brain damaged four year old! But I'm having fun, and seeing some improvements. Right now I get to meet with her for about 5 hours, once a week. But I will be seeking more forums to practice speaking as I go. I want to speak as much as is possible.