Hi, I'm one of those people who stalled their reviews and never got up to speed again. Now I have 1200 cards I need to review. Because it is so long time since I reviewed my cards, I would like to start from the beginning with kanji number 1 and continue reviewing in the order intended by Heisig. Therefore I would like to hear if it is possible to reset my stacks, so that all my "need to review cards" are moved to the "never tested" stack? I'm aware it is possible to remove cards, but that also deletes my stories, right?
2009-10-25, 7:49 am
2009-10-25, 8:51 am
Couldn't you just failed them all, so they're all in the first stack. Then you can only click "Learned" on them once you've gone over them? I don't know the real way to do it, but this seems like it'd be qualitatively the same.
2009-10-25, 9:01 am
I have 800 cards I would like to move to the first stack. That's a lot of clicking to do that manually
But if that's the only solution, I guess it would be easier than deleting the cards and their stories.
But if that's the only solution, I guess it would be easier than deleting the cards and their stories.
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2009-10-25, 9:07 am
My advise would be to just review the lot, you will honestly be surprised with how much you remember. There is no point starting again or failing cards that you probably still remember. It will take time but try doing this, while reviewing, if the kanji doesn't spring to mind quickly then fail it. Don't bother to write them out or spend time on them if you are unsure, this will process a lot of kanji really fast.
The hardest thing you will face is clearing that inevitable fail stack... all i can say is make some coffee and get ready for the grind. I think you can be back on track within a week. Starting again will be a massive and unessesary set back, in my opinion.
The hardest thing you will face is clearing that inevitable fail stack... all i can say is make some coffee and get ready for the grind. I think you can be back on track within a week. Starting again will be a massive and unessesary set back, in my opinion.
2009-10-25, 9:10 am
sprutnik Wrote:I have 800 cards I would like to move to the first stack. That's a lot of clicking to do that manuallyJust press spacebar then 'n' on your keyboard, don't use your mouse (if that's what you meant by clicking). It'll be way easier on your hands.But if that's the only solution, I guess it would be easier than deleting the cards and their stories.
Edited: 2009-10-25, 9:11 am
2009-10-25, 9:21 am
WeTsTICK Wrote:My advise would be to just review the lot, you will honestly be surprised with how much you remember. There is no point starting again or failing cards that you probably still remember. It will take time but try doing this, while reviewing, if the kanji doesn't spring to mind quickly then fail it. Don't bother to write them out or spend time on them if you are unsure, this will process a lot of kanji really fast.I think you are right and I have decided to jump into the review hell and see how much I remember. I'll just try not to look the massive stacks of failed cards directly in their eyes. They are kinda scary.
The hardest thing you will face is clearing that inevitable fail stack... all i can say is make some coffee and get ready for the grind. I think you can be back on track within a week. Starting again will be a massive and unessesary set back, in my opinion.
2009-10-25, 9:23 am
I hear that.
2009-10-25, 10:52 am
sprutnik Wrote:I think you are right and I have decided to jump into the review hell and see how much I remember. I'll just try not to look the massive stacks of failed cards directly in their eyes. They are kinda scary.First step: Stop thinking of it like that.
Just work through it, a little at a time, and what you remember is good. What you don't, you re-learn. It's a lot healthier than trying to 'start over' which will just be extremely tedious.
2009-10-26, 2:37 am
I started back yesterday and decided just to go through it. I had about 550 either failed or to review - within two short sessions, I'm already down to 480 either failed or to review.
I went to the study page and read down the list on the left (so without the kanji) - anything I knew from there I hit learned, anything else I plan to go back to the book and really work on.
I plan to just whittle away at it, making sure I do a little bit each day until I've cleared everything, and then I can go back to adding new stuff.
I went to the study page and read down the list on the left (so without the kanji) - anything I knew from there I hit learned, anything else I plan to go back to the book and really work on.
I plan to just whittle away at it, making sure I do a little bit each day until I've cleared everything, and then I can go back to adding new stuff.
2009-10-26, 6:21 am
sprutnik Wrote:I'm aware it is possible to remove cards, but that also deletes my stories, right?I deleted my cards and it did NOT delete the stories. People start over all the time. The only thing you lose is the nice big number that shows your total reviews. I've responded on this topic at least twice and if you search the forum, you will find many more similar posts to yours.
I suggest that if you want to reset, try deleting a few cards as a test to verify to yourself that the stories themselves don't disappear.
wccrawford Wrote:Just work through it, a little at a time, and what you remember is good. What you don't, you re-learn. It's a lot healthier than trying to 'start over' which will just be extremely tedious.As someone who has done it both ways, I disagree. Relearning kanji out of sequence is extremely tedious. It eliminates one of the main strengths of learning kanji with Heisig's method. You spend a lot of your reviewing time looking up primitives you forgot or looking up the story for the earlier kanji you forgot that is part of the kanji you are attempting to learn out of sequence. You come back to huge reviews and a massive fail pile day after day. For someone who is trying to get back into daily RTK study after a long time away, that sounds (to use your term) "unhealthy" to me.
On the other hand, relearning in sequence takes little more than a quick rereading of your story. Problematic stories that you know you "always forget" can be immediately tweaked and improved with a fresh mind. Your % correct should be dramatically improved over your first attempt which in turn, makes your number of reviews each day lower, even if you are adding cards at a fast rate.
Good luck to the OP with whichever way you choose.
Edited: 2009-10-26, 6:23 am
