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Dict of Japanese Grammar, Sentence deck relased on Anki.

#1
There is now a Shared Deck on anki of the DOJG series! It seems pretty complete. I will be using my MISAKI neospeech voice and get started on those soon! Very exciting to have those available, and I thought I'd try and let some people know that they're up on Anki, check for mistakes though as the French uploader admits there may be a few.

IMO, this is one hell of a guaranteed path to understanding most Japanese grammar, and if you have the books for reference as you go through then I think you're set.

Let's all Ganbarou!
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#2
Awesome. Just one suggestion.

I've been working on an Anki deck for "All About Particles" and
one thing I've done with the Anki deck is to highlight the grammar
pattern in red.

Maybe you can do the same while you're adding your Misako audio?
Would appreciate it.

Thanks.
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#3
I just download it. I may just be great. thanks
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#4
Oh, I might do the same as I go just for reinforcements sake, I'm about halfway on KO right now though and after I finish that I will go through this dictionary. Japanese is kind of on hold at the moment, I'm only adding 25 sentences per day but I figure it's better than nothing. But I definitely plan on going through this deck when I finish KO. I've already complete Tae Kim beforehand so KO's grammar is relatively easy but when I watch some shows I find that there certainly is long way to go grammar wise after I finish KO.
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#5
a quick look shows some erros. I look at four sentences and there were two mistakes. one major, one minor
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#6
Hmm... You know, going through that whole deck would just be a big freakin chore.
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#7
there would be little point in going thru the whole deck one by one. its better as a resource. I would never ask a student of english to go thru a whole dictionary front to back.

Frequency list are best, so a grammar deck sorted by freq is superior to this. However, if you can deal with the mistkes, it DOES have a ton of strong sentences. I'll diffeently keep it around.
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#8
mezbup Wrote:Hmm... You know, going through that whole deck would just be a big freakin chore.
Considering the fact that I will toss out a lot of familiar grammar and sentences that contain too many common vocabulary I don't think it will be too bad. I will just keep the strongest examples of the grammar points around, I'll cut the number at very least in half I'm guessing.
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#9
zazen666 Wrote:there would be little point in going thru the whole deck one by one. its better as a resource. I would never ask a student of english to go thru a whole dictionary front to back.
I would, if they were passionate about the language itself and not just the practical aspects of it. I fall into that category since I don't care much at all about anime, manga, drama, modern jp fiction, or modern Japanese films (I watched Goemon on an airplane 2 months ago and it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's also exactly the same as every other Japanese period film nowdays Sad). I'll take reading a dictionary over watching Naruto any day! (Yes, I am an academic) Appendices are always especially interesting.

I read DBJ from cover to cover during downtime when I worked at a konbini. I plan on reading DIJ and DAJ too when I have time some day in the distant future.

I need to figure out how to setup mecab on my mac. It would be interesting to see a word frequency list for the dictionaries.
Edited: 2009-10-14, 11:24 am
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#10
Yonosa Wrote:IMO, this is one hell of a guaranteed path to understanding most Japanese grammar, and if you have the books for reference as you go through then I think you're set.
This is great. I have the basic dictionary and rarely use it - now I can search for specific vocabulary and particles, should be a little easier. At least it will keep the book in my mind.
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#11
Setting Jarvik's blogpost aside, what is this? Edit: brianobush ruined my burrrn oh well

Is it a deck where someone's copied all the sentences out of a grammar book...? I haven't even heard of the book before. Is it as entertaining as KO, what kind of language does it use, etc. At what level of Japanese study can you benefit from this?

Edit2: Reading it again, this sounded too demanding. Just a link with some good info is ok with me!
Edited: 2009-10-14, 3:04 pm
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#12
Yonosa, I've noticed mistakes straight away when opening the deck, and I'm a beginner, but it does not matter and the whole point is the following: THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING & CONTRIBUTING TO OUR COMMUNITY! This deck will definitely become a winner in the long run, I'm sure of this.
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#13
can anyone reupload it in some file sharing website? (coz I don't have anki installed in this PC currently)
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#14
Is the deck based on this spreadsheet?

*edit* Well, seems it is not, as it contains all three books. Here is a rapidshare download link (18MB): http://rapidshare.com/files/293094164/85..._the_.anki

If you find a mistake in the deck, you should post it here, so that the deck can be updated with the corrections.
Edited: 2009-10-14, 5:25 pm
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#15
Jarvik7 Wrote:I would, if they were passionate about the language itself and not just the practical aspects of it. I fall into that category since I don't care much at all about anime, manga, drama, modern jp fiction, or modern Japanese films (I watched Goemon on an airplane 2 months ago and it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's also exactly the same as every other Japanese period film nowdays Sad). I'll take reading a dictionary over watching Naruto any day! (Yes, I am an academic) Appendices are always especially interesting.
That comment made me sick to my stomach.
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#16
I would go through ''All about Particles'' instead. Not sure if its as complete as Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, but sentences are generally short and there aren't an exhaustive list of examples.

I am almost finished doing all the sentences from All About Particles, then I spend about 2 to 3 weeks doing the AJATT sentence pack (i bought it might as well use it). After that its monolingual straight from stuff I find interesting.
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#17
pubbie2 Wrote:
Jarvik7 Wrote:I would, if they were passionate about the language itself and not just the practical aspects of it. I fall into that category since I don't care much at all about anime, manga, drama, modern jp fiction, or modern Japanese films (I watched Goemon on an airplane 2 months ago and it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's also exactly the same as every other Japanese period film nowdays Sad). I'll take reading a dictionary over watching Naruto any day! (Yes, I am an academic) Appendices are always especially interesting.
That comment made me sick to my stomach.
You'd be surprised. All academics are like this.
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#18
Surreal: It's "A Dictionary of Basic [Intermediate or Advanced] Japanese Grammar" published by Japan Times. (3 separate books.) Descriptions and reviews at thejapanshop and at Amazon. I highly recommend them.

The explanations of grammar points and the the various appendices in the book contain valuable information. It sounds like the anki deck is sentences only which would be less useful.
Edited: 2009-10-15, 9:06 am
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#19
amazing upload!!! thanks!!
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#20
Nii87 Wrote:
pubbie2 Wrote:
Jarvik7 Wrote:I would, if they were passionate about the language itself and not just the practical aspects of it. I fall into that category since I don't care much at all about anime, manga, drama, modern jp fiction, or modern Japanese films (I watched Goemon on an airplane 2 months ago and it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's also exactly the same as every other Japanese period film nowdays Sad). I'll take reading a dictionary over watching Naruto any day! (Yes, I am an academic) Appendices are always especially interesting.
That comment made me sick to my stomach.
You'd be surprised. All academics are like this.
For what it's worth, that was more a comment about the quality of Naruto than about dictionaries Tongue I'd rather do just about anything instead of watching Naruto.
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#21
About how many sentences does this deck contain? I have a copy of the actual book, which I plan to go through eventually, and if this contains that many errors I might as well type it out myself, it there aren't too many sentences. I guess too many here would be more than 300.
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#22
CerpinTaxt Wrote:About how many sentences does this deck contain? I have a copy of the actual book, which I plan to go through eventually, and if this contains that many errors I might as well type it out myself, it there aren't too many sentences. I guess too many here would be more than 300.
roughly 8500.
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#23
mezbup Wrote:
CerpinTaxt Wrote:About how many sentences does this deck contain? I have a copy of the actual book, which I plan to go through eventually, and if this contains that many errors I might as well type it out myself, it there aren't too many sentences. I guess too many here would be more than 300.
roughly 8500.
Quite a lot more than I was expecting... I guess that dashes my plans to type it all out.
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#24
i think that's a LITTLE more than 300 ^^

Yeah, even just looking at a few pages in the book you'll come across more than 300 sentences so that was kind of out of left field for me, LOL

I have all 3 books and wonder the same, if I should use it, or just type it out myself as part of the initial review process, still a great resource though ^^
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#25
I think that series of dictionaries is absolutely wonderful! I have copies myself for when I don't know how to explain a Japanese concept in English; it words things much better than I could.

Actually, does anyone know something similar for Mandarin? I have two friends friends learning Mandarin, and I can't really suggest any books to them since I didn't learn it through English.
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