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RTK3 in 10 days - wish me luck

#1
It's the school holidays and so what better thing to do than kill myself trying to complete RTK3 in 10 days (including Anki reviews). Actually, I don't think it'll be all that hard, I've done so many reviews and used the RTK1 kanji so much (at 4, 000 sentences now for AJATT) that I can look at a Kanji once and remember it. There's definitely a point at which Kanji just become really easy. RTK is actually kind of like leisure for me.
The hardest part will be having the time to fit in my sentence reviews (about 300 a day), RTK1 reviews, and RTK3 reviews every day. I'm taking a break from adding sentences for the 10 days. And then after that, I might go straight onto picking up all the remaining kanji from zhongwen.

Anyway, I'll be back here in 10 days to report the results.
Edited: 2009-09-26, 12:22 pm
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#2
Good luck and I'm interested to hear how you do. I've only been adding RTK3 kanji as I recognize them while reading and it's been kind of slow (I only have about 230 of them added). I've just been wondering if it's all that beneficial to do them at once. When you're done I'll be curious as to how your knowledge of the RTK3 kanji affects your reading Smile
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#3
In terms of immediate use, it won't be huge; just like there are RTK1 kanji that can take months of reading Japanese material to come across. It's more for just getting them all done as quickly as possible so that I don't have to keep making English stories while doing AJATT. That's why I'm considering doing Zhongwen straight afterwards as well, 5, 000 kanji should be enough.
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#4
I tried it

I advise AGAINST IT!!!

The first three days went well, did my 250, plus reviews

Then my computer stopped charging and i lost everything; i'm restarting with 15 a day, seriously from trying this DO NOT DO IT, it's not worth the 15 seconds of fame and congratulations you want.

It's so rushed, you don't properly process the stuff, you rush stories, copy other's stories when you could make your own better ones, just copy and paste into anki, mindlessly press ctrl + c, ctrl + v. Initially i was amazed at how fast i could learn them, after 200 in one sitting though i felt suicidal. Please keep your sanity.

I did nearly 700 in just under 4 days

It was hell

Seriously take it slowly
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#5
oh wait i clearly CAN'T READ

I did rtk 1, duh! ;p but still the principles the same

DON'T RUSH!!!
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#6
がんばって!Interested in how that turns out - I'm nearing the end of RTK 1, but already I'm coming across kanji that aren't in it (why oh why is 嬉=嬉しい not in the prescribed list?!).

I'd like to see too how well you can remember large numbers of kanji just at a glance (if that's what you try) - I've started to find this, but if I try it with more than a more than a few at a time it becomes impossible to accurately remember them.
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#7
Just a quick progress report - it's unbelievably easy.
It takes me about 1 hour to get through 100 stories, and then 10 minutes to review them all in Anki, with about 6 or 7 wrong. I'm staggered. I've stopped when I hit 100 in one day, and spent the rest of day doing actual Japanese, but I'm considering just pushing it out and getting it done as quickly as possible, which should be like 4 days. Then again, that might not be advisable, as I'll have a lot of reviews to get through later on.

Hoshitachi - Yeah, it's the complete opposite for me. I've been using and reviewing the RTK1 and hundreds of extra Kanji for about 4 months now, and so Kanji just fall into my brain, I barely even need a story now. "ctrl + c...." don't you use the Anki RTK1 + 3 deck?
I don't put stories on my cards either, I just click the hyperlink.

I just realised, this isn't quick.
Edited: 2009-09-27, 10:02 pm
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#8
its just not quick for the first 100 or so. i am about 180 in now and after you get through the first 100 or so of those messed up bizarre creations you will get into more familiar territory, mixing primitives you already know. hell some of the new kanji are primitives from before. like the one for towel so easy.
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#9
Dude, do it in 5 days. That's how real men learn their Kanji.
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#10
The 3 in RTK3 stands for 3 days, so you have already failed....
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#11
skinnyneo Wrote:Dude, do it in 5 days. That's how real men learn their Kanji.
Or try the secret Heisig method. Use the Kanji Poster with only one secret keyword for the big mass of 2042 kanjis (hint: the secret keyword is "kanjis")

It will take 2 seconds to review every day, no more cards stacks, you can play the Wii instead of wasting your time now.
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#12
Man what why would you be like that guys. He's not even attempted to boast, just said what's happened so far. Thecite I am interested in your progress and would like to keep hearing updates from you, like I'm sure others would. Quick question is, when you review the kanji do you just see the keyword, get the mental image of the full kanji and done? Or is it more like a process of forming the kanji.

It's awesome if you're able to handle the workload but like everyone else I'll recommend you to stay cool, if it starts becoming unbearable take it down a notch.

Edit: Hang on, you mentioned you've been using RTK for four months but you registered in february, about seven months ago. When did you start to study Japanese? (not trying to call you out, I'm sure you meant something else than what it read like, it's for informational purposes)
Edited: 2009-09-30, 1:35 am
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#13
出来た! I finished today, which means it's taken me 8 days from start to finish. The first 600 or so were considerably easy, my brain sucked them up, and I even managed to get 200 done in one day. Then the reviews started kicking in in Anki and with all the extra reviews I was doing for AJATT, I started to fatigue. The last 200 or so were a push to get through. Of course, I haven't remembered them all, but all I have to do now is sit back and do the Anki reviews and let them be remembered through the next few weeks.

Surreal - Yeah, I just let the keyword bring up an image in my head, and if that doesn't work after a few seconds then I'll try and piece it together using the story.

I signed up for this site before I'd started using RTK1 in February, not really even understanding what this site was all about. So when I did RTK1, I'd completely forgotten about this site and didn't use it at all. Unsurprisingly, it took me ages using my own stories, and I didn't even use Anki, I just forgot them all as I went along. When I finally used Anki at the END of rtk1, there was a hyperlink feature that finally led me to this site.

By 'been using' RTK1 for 4 months, I mean from the time that I started doing AJATT. After you've read tens of thousands of Japanese sentences, the Kanji work a permanent place into your mind. Also, I've cut out reading all English for AJATT (albeit this RTK venture), which helps enormously.

I've been learning Japanese for 4 and a half years (gasp)
When I was 11, I decided that I wanted to learn Japanese, so I learnt with a tutor for 3 years or so, as well as doing it at school.
Well, needless to say, those 4 years with the tutor and at school were a complete waste of my precious life, and if someone had given me the link to AJATT when I was 11, I never would have gone to a tutor. I found about RTK1 on the net, which eventually led me to AJATT, which leads me to my present position. Without a doubt, I've learnt 100 times as much (no exaggeration) in 5 months of self study than in 4 years with that freakin tutor.

And that's a long post.
Edited: 2009-10-04, 6:28 am
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#14
Awesome reply and grats on finishing before deadline. Cool how you're so motivated despite being a high schooler (assuming you didn't stop your studies for some time), just watch out so you don't miss learning other important stuff too. Once again, nice job!
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