Hello. I own all the white rabbit press flashcards. They are really good. The thing is I'd like to be able to have their information and stuff on my ipod touch so I can study them in places where I cannot bring all the cards.

I have anki and gflash for my touch, but I cannot seem to find any decks that have all their information in a "deck format" for either program. Yeah I can find JPLT decks and RTK decks but I am still looking for WhiteRabitPress ones. Is there another program out there with these decks? I realize it would take a lot of time to go through all the cards and enter them on to the computer to make a deck. I am currently doing this but I have so many more cards to go and was just wondering if it has been done already.

Uh.. What exactly do these cards have on them?

on and kun readings in hiragana and katakana,
then the english meanings
then a list of compounds based on JLPT in kana reading then the english meaning
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a sample is here http://www.whiterabbitpress.com/support/...ditemid=11

Meh, you could transcribe them by hand, or write a script to do it for you, and import it to anki so you could use it with ankimini, but.. really there isn't much point... Review sentences, much better.

Reviewing sentences is much better for learning kanji? And which sentence review decks do you recommend?

Probably these ones: http://smart.fm/lists/47378
Use the Anki plugin to grab them.

travis Wrote:Probably these ones: http://smart.fm/lists/47378
Use the Anki plugin to grab them.

sorry but how can i use anki to grab them????

I have the 1st & 2nd sets. When I got them I was over the moon about them and was thinking I would want the 1kyuu kanji too someday - but in practice I have never used anything but the 1st set - because the 2nd set is huge. The third even bigger. It's a nightmare to find the right cards and to manage reviews.

Options for sentences: 2001 Kanji Odyssey, or Smart.FM, or Reibun de Manabu Kanji to Kotoba, or Kanji in Context. The first 2 are easy to get in Anki and Smart.FM is free.

To import Smart.FM sentences, look at Anki's plugins (File>Download>Shared Plugin) for "smartfm".

Thanks for the smart.fm stuff. By Kanji Oddessy do you mean: http://smart.fm/lists/47378 ?

I have the kanji oddessy 2001. but does this smart.fm lists only do up to 540 kanjis?

and I cannot get the audio parts to play on my iAnki on my touch. (I dont have it jailbreaked)

There are 2 lists for KO2001, one is directly from the book and is a google docs spreadsheet. You can use the import function in Anki to create a new deck.

The other lists are the smart.fm ones, they use the same vocabulary and order as the book, but the smart.fm sentences. Both lists should cover 1110 kanji.

See the first post here: http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=2419

travis Wrote:There are 2 lists for KO2001, one is directly from the book and is a google docs spreadsheet. You can use the import function in Anki to create a new deck.

I searched through that post, but I did not find the google doc spreadsheet. Where can I get it?

Send an email to vosmiura (book1) and rich_f (book2), just include a picture.

travis Wrote:Send an email to vosmiura (book1) and rich_f (book2), just include a picture.

You don't have to bother with that, you can download it here already as an anki deck with audio.

What format can I save the google doc as in order to open it in anki?

vosmiura Wrote:I have the 1st & 2nd sets. When I got them I was over the moon about them and was thinking I would want the 1kyuu kanji too someday - but in practice I have never used anything but the 1st set - because the 2nd set is huge. The third even bigger. It's a nightmare to find the right cards and to manage reviews.

I know its quite hard, that's why I am looking for a deck so i can study them electronically.

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ADMIN: Please keep in mind that White Rabbit Press products are proprietary material and they currently do not agree with distribution of WRP Kanji Flashcard decks. I have been contacted recently on this issue. Direct links to such downloads will be deleted in accordance with the forum guidelines. I am writing WRP with some proactive suggestions on this topic.

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With a goal of transparency and positive resolution I have sent this email to Joseph at White Rabbit Press.

If you're looking for WRP flashcard decks, please email them with similar or better suggestions to support more positive solutions that benefit everyone. (WRP forum)

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Re: Piracy
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Hi Joseph,

The link you have provided points to an entire topic rather than a single post. I coudln't see a particular post pointing to unauthorized use of White Rabbit Press material. They do provide links to flashcard sets on smartfm or other website, for KO2001 and CosCom material (both of which I have not received complaints from, and they are certainly aware of these lists on smartfm).

If you see a particular post containing download links or specific instructions to make illegal copies of copyrighted WRP material, then I am happy to moderate those with a clear message for the users. Otherwise I can not moderate such topics without giving a good reason to the community members.

With all that said I have posted a notice here:
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?p...7#pid88177


The RevTK community forums do not condone piracy, that is true. It's in the forum guidelines:
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?tid=180

However as a community administrator I have to walk a fine line between maintaining a good direction for the forum, and taking some distance to allow people to self regulate. Users will most respect you and be most cooperative when they understand the reasons why posts are edited or why certain rules are in place, which is what I have tried to do with those guidelines.

Part of the guidelines is that I may edit out some links, but the discussion of such materials is usually tolerated. You have to tolerate that flashcard software users are free to create the decks that they want, for their own use. You can try to control the dsitribution but it will always be a vain effort. If they dont post on this board they will post somewhere else.

As for the proactive suggestions I mentioned in the forum post...

If you want to protect the particular association of kanji information displayed on the WRP flashcards, which is copyrightable, I would suggest as the most proactive way to actually create your own Anki decks and official smartfm decks for example. Just like the Monthy Pythons eventually created the official YouTube channel, in the same spirit. That way, since you are copyright holder, you have even the right to sell these, or you may use these decks as more promotion.

Please take this suggestion with a grain of salt. Obviously I am not a seller myself, but I have come a long way with my own site, and realized how the things are changing out there. There's simply no way that you will stop people from sharing flashcard sets based on WRP if they want to, and you will simply spend more and more energy emailing various forums, sites and so on, to get such links removed. Plus the time spent googling and setting up alerts to find them. Perhaps you find theat the market is small enough to warrant the effort and to be able to control the spread, I would argue that if you create your own official decks you may easily sell them at a low price and get both my (as the administrator who has to moderate offending links), and the user's cooperation, respects and support.

This was meant with the best intentions, so please forgive me if it came accross in any way as arrogant, it was not my intention.

All the best,

-Fabrice
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PS: I was actually in talks with WRP about advertising. So paradoxically this led me to this more in depth reply. The reason is that I need to be congruous between advertising and community moderation. I don't want that an advertising or affiliate partnership to become some sort of implicit agreement for controlling forum discussions. For example I would not moderate people who would constructively criticize KanjiPoster, or JapanesePod101. Let's be clear: the forum guidelines stay, we do not condone piracy. So this is more of a principle.

I know it's an old thread but it came up on Google and I'm thinking other White Rabbit customers will read this thread too. Plus Smart FM is now copyright I guess. I bought the beginner white rabbit set a couple years ago but never got into it since phone apps seemed more convenient. I dusted it off and thought I'd give it a try. Then I thought what would happen if I just scanned the cards (I have an automatic document feed style scanner so I don't have to do it by hand). I scanned it and made a Flashcards Deluxe deck at 300 dpi color jpeg files and it looks fantastic in the app. So I can SRS White Rabbit. I wish they would make an app or sell an anki deck or something though. They could add multimedia to these things and make them even sweeter. I'll be sending them feedback saying as much although I'm positive the idea of making electronic versions of the decks isn't new to them.