bandwidthjunkie Wrote:

Jarvik7 Wrote:You couldn't be more wrong. 2G ipods are just as easy as 1G ipods to jailbreak. 3.0 and 3.01 firmware are also just as easily jailbroken. Redsn0w makes it completely automatic..

If you have a problem, it's likely related to your device being too full. Restore the firmware to stock, jailbreak, and then load all your stuff on it.

Ankimini doesn't work on 3.0. Link would be appreciated...

News to me, I've been using it for weeks.

bandwidthjunkie Wrote:

ToasterMage Wrote:instructions for preordering on http://openpandora.org/

Yes, I can see a lot of links and propaganda, but nothing that says buy now...

openpandora.org Wrote:When and where can I buy it?
There are a small number of Pandoras left from the first batch - if you are interested in buying one please email openpandorasales@gmail.com.

Jarvik7 Wrote:

bandwidthjunkie Wrote:

Jarvik7 Wrote:You couldn't be more wrong. 2G ipods are just as easy as 1G ipods to jailbreak. 3.0 and 3.01 firmware are also just as easily jailbroken. Redsn0w makes it completely automatic..

If you have a problem, it's likely related to your device being too full. Restore the firmware to stock, jailbreak, and then load all your stuff on it.

Ankimini doesn't work on 3.0. Link would be appreciated...

News to me, I've been using it for weeks.

IIRC sound playback isn't working, but everything else works.

Why is no one even mentioning Windows Mobile? (I own a HTC Touch Diamond and my next phone will be Windows Mobile or Android)

Oh, right, that's why: there is no SRS software available for WM6 or (experimental Anki support was taken away)? This is incredible to me, seeing as there are so many on the windows platform. Is WinMobile so difficult to create stuff for?

For those that don't know it, the ipod line is going to be refreshed VERY soon. Even if you want to get a current generation ipod touch rather than the new one, they will be much cheaper after the new line is released.

The downside of getting one of the next gen ones is you have to wait until they are jailbroken before you can use AnkiMini. There is also talk of an official client being made once Anki 1.0 is released, which might come out first. The next gen ones are MUCH faster and have twice the ram, so I'll be getting one.

You don't even need iAnki or AnkiMini for a Iphone or Itouch. Seriously, I tried and it was the biggest pain in the ass to get working. It just didn't want to know.

All I did was go onto Anki online on my laptop and go through the online feature and wrote down the URL that my browser was using to access that. Step 2: open safari on your iphone or itouch and type in the link you've just written down. Boom. There's your anki. Next what you do is click on the little book icon and it brings up a menu then click "add to home screen" and it will make an icon on your springboard that will take you straight to the page.

SOOOO simple.

From there it's just a matter of syncing your decks and reviewing on the go where needed.

I know technically you can only do this when there is WiFi around (Or for Iphone if you have a data plan). But I actually find it seriously useful to be able to review on the go around my home. Things like, you are in the kitchen cooking dinner and your Iphone or Itouch is with you, you can just do a few reviews while you watch over dinner as it cooks. Or, can't get to sleep at night? Pick up your device and crank out a few hundred reviews. Then you'll fall asleep soundly.

Hope at least a few of you find this helpful.

online Anki never works on my iPhone. Almost inevitably a sentence will end up being too long, get cut off at the bottom of the page, and prevent the show answer button from appearing.

When was the last time you tried ankimini? It's on cydia now so the install is completely automatic. All you need to do is put in your anki online password so you can sync.

I guess that was directed at mezbup? 'Cos I already use Ankimini. It really is quite simple, I agree. Once you've jailbroken (which isn't that difficult), its basically a one click install through cydia.

Quote:You don't even need iAnki or AnkiMini for a Iphone or Itouch. Seriously, I tried and it was the biggest pain in the ass to get working. It just didn't want to know.

What the? It is not such a pain in the ass to get them working, and if you take the time to install AnkiMini/iAnki the time will pay for itself.

If your phone is Jailbroken, AnkiMini is easy to install automatically and sync to Anki's server.

If you can't Jailbreak then your steps for how you bookmarked Anki Online are almost exactly the same as the way iAnki is used; if you can do that you can also use iAnki. Once you realize it, it is very simple.

Step 1: Open the iAnki server window and press Start.
Step 2: open safari on your iphone or itouch and type the IP of your computer. Boom. There's your anki. Next what you do is click on the little book icon and it brings up a menu then click "add to home screen" and it will make an icon on your springboard that will take you straight to the page.

SOOOO simple.

From there it's just a matter of syncing your decks and REALLY reviewing on the go where needed.

Sound familiar?

vosmiura Wrote:If you can't Jailbreak then <snip>

There is no one who can't jailbreak, only those that are afraid of doing it. It is unfounded fear because you can't brick your device and it's completely reversible with no trace. There is also nothing that is hindered by jailbreaking your device. A hacktivated phone apparently cannot receive push alerts (although I think this may have been fixed), but that has nothing to do with jailbreaking despite what crappy mainstream print/web media thinks.

I just use paper flashcards. Use them anywhere and no worries about battery life.

ocircle Wrote:I just use paper flashcards. Use them anywhere and no worries about battery life.

Don't they weigh you down when you're spear hunting for woolly mammoths?

ocircle Wrote:I just use paper flashcards. Use them anywhere and no worries about battery life.

And no SRS mechanism, so you overexpose yourself needlessly. Sounds like a great idea.

I bought a mini laptop for that among other reasons.
Got a real bargain too!

The Pandora should be able to support anki nativley =D Just need a recompile to ARM CPU(as well as it's dependencies). It will be the ultimate SRS tool!

*PS, has anyone else ordered a pandora?

Do you earn a commission or something bombpersons?

Jarvik7 Wrote:Do you earn a commission or something bombpersons?

That would be nice...

I do not use a computer much, and would like to solely use a Windows mobile or Android solution (not through Internet as that's too slow). No one on these forums know any really good spaced repetition solution/progam somewhere for these platforms? Jim Breen's JFC can only do so much...

Tobberoth Wrote:

ocircle Wrote:I just use paper flashcards. Use them anywhere and no worries about battery life.

And no SRS mechanism, so you overexpose yourself needlessly. Sounds like a great idea.

I don't know why everyone immediately jumps to that conclusion.
I pull out cards I know into one pile and keep adding new cards to replace them. If you keep it around the maximum number of vocabulary cards you can memorize in a day (30-60) it's actually a very effective way to review. I'd keep my memorized cards of the day in my left pocket and cards to memorize in the right one. At the end of the day I review both left and right pockets, and leave the ones I still need to work on on the right and put the rest in a stack to be reviewed three days later.

On the other hand, if you keep failing three cards in Anki, it just flashes them in order over and over making it kind of a moot point to memorize them because you just have to remember the three of them in order even though the three words probably have nothing to do with each other. That doesn't seem very properly spaced out to me.

But I have found anki useful in reviewing more than 100 words at a time, which I do weekly. (Reviewing all the required words for JLPT3? No problem for a Saturday afternoon .. haha) It just has serious shortfalls when you're trying to memorize the last 10 or less cards.

ocircle Wrote:I just use paper flashcards. Use them anywhere and no worries about battery life.

i do this too, but only for the learning stage (the micro spacing i require at the beginning isn't something that any srs is very good at), and the reviewing and cementing is left to the srs, else i'd be walking around with 150+ flashcards every day... which would be awkward...

dbh2ppa Wrote:the micro spacing i require at the beginning isn't something that any srs is very good at)

Is that really true? I mean, you can adjust the spacing intervals to suit your needs, cant you?

kazelee Wrote:

dbh2ppa Wrote:the micro spacing i require at the beginning isn't something that any srs is very good at.

Is that really true? I mean, you can adjust the spacing intervals to suit your needs, cant you?

well... the adjustments necessary to make the cards expire 20 to 40 times in the first day would be annoying, since only some facts require that (like, learning 10 or so lines of text verbatim, which i need sometimes), and others require way less. i can easily control this by hand with paper flashcards.
plus, using an srs for that initial learning would mean being in front of the computer or a mobile device nearly all day, which can't be good for your eyes, and i hate carrying around electronic devices.

I recently bought two Nokia n810 internet tablets for this purpose (one for me, one for gf). They are *perfect*.

There are three anki options: AnkiQT, AnkiMaemi and AnkiMini. You can also use Anki online. On top of that there is a great range of programs for the device and an active developer community. And soon ubuntu mobile will be able to run on it, meaning you can have all the japanese learning tools in the world.

Currently, I use it for...
- anki review (ankimaemi is my favourite client)
- dictionary (options include stardict and aardict)
- internet
- podcast grabbing and listening
- net radio
- watching anime/videocasts
- reading manga

Benefits of an n810 over the ipod touch/iphone...
- bigger, higher quality screen
- linux backend, with limitless future extensibility
- cheaper (I got mine for £129.99 from play.com)
- 10 day idle battery life, about 7 hours in constant use
- it has a kick-stand which i find very useful when reviewing kanji

Downsides of n810 compared with ipod touch/iphone...
- not a multi-touch screen
- not as many apps available as in the Apple app store
- not as trendy

If anyone is interested, I'll be making a microsite detailing every step required to turn the n810 into the perfect mobile japanese learning tool.

molkom Wrote:Why is no one even mentioning Windows Mobile? (I own a HTC Touch Diamond and my next phone will be Windows Mobile or Android)

Oh, right, that's why: there is no SRS software available for WM6 or (experimental Anki support was taken away)? This is incredible to me, seeing as there are so many on the windows platform. Is WinMobile so difficult to create stuff for?

Ditto (although I use a HTC Touch 3D)
love the phone to death, although I use it more as a PDA than a phone to be honest. Just wish Anki would run on it