Just saw this on AJATT's twitter:

http://jrek.ta2o.net/

Would you be so kind as to describe the content? I'm tired of people posting random links with no information and expecting everyone to jump up and check it out.

yukamina Wrote:Would you be so kind as to describe the content? I'm tired of people posting random links with no information and expecting everyone to jump up and check it out.

Just to hazard a guess - judging by the title of the thread, "Japanese Example Sentence Search," I wouldn't be surprised if it was some kind of site that allows you to search for example Japanese sentences.... wait while I spend the 0.001 sec it takes to click on the link to verify this assumption and judge for myself how useful to me the page will be...

Yeah, I thought the title pretty much summed it up.

Anyone have any more info? From the front page it looks like it uses Corpus, so who knows the quality of the sentences... But then again, would Khatz recommend something that was crap? Who knows...

No, it's a search engine. Your results are listed with the searched word in the middle, with leading and trailing portions of the results on the left and right.

Kind of cool to see how a certain grammar or vocabulary is used in the real world. Wished that there were better site selections, like limiting search to specific web domain or site.

Now that Twitter has remodeled its home page to emphasize 'realtime search', you can--as someone else here mentioned--type stuff in there: for colloquial, contemporary examples just search for whatever you're interested in at a given moment.

Nukemarine Wrote:No, it's a search engine. Your results are listed with the searched word in the middle, with leading and trailing portions of the results on the left and right.

Kind of cool to see how a certain grammar or vocabulary is used in the real world. Wished that there were better site selections, like limiting search to specific web domain or site.

Ah, thanks for the quick explanation, Nukemarine. I only had time before to click on it and just run my eyes over the front page really.

At first I brushed this site off, but when I decided to make sentences for some compound kanji that most natives know how to read, but aren't usually taught anywhere, my usual sources came up empty. Then I remembered the post, tried the link, most of the results were garbage, but I found decent sentences.

I have to say, I'm bookmarking this. I don't think it's as useful for beginners, but if you what you're doing it's a nice tool.

When I have a sentence with a word that I need more examples of, I use this

http://jisho.org/sentences/

Some (few) of the sentences have errors, some are little strange, but not other resource has so many easy to find sentences.

oregum Wrote:When I have a sentence with a word that I need more examples of, I use this

http://jisho.org/sentences/

Some (few) of the sentences have errors, some are little strange, but not other resource has so many easy to find sentences.

It isn't worth it. Why use second grade sentences when there are sources with perfect native sentences? I've never run into a word I couldn't find native example sentences of in 新和英大辞典.

Tobberoth Wrote:It isn't worth it. Why use second grade sentences when there are sources with perfect native sentences? I've never run into a word I couldn't find native example sentences of in 新和英大辞典.

I use 新英和中辞典 , however it has less sentences/examples than 大. Any idea about where I can get the electronic version of 大辞典？EPWING format is ideal, because I use a DELL x50v for handwriting input.

@montecristo73
I think that Jisho.org is better than than using Google.

does anyone have any comments or thoughts on the quality of http://www.alc.co.jp ? i'm loving it and think it's a lot of fun, but how trustworthy are the sentences?

kodorakun Wrote:does anyone have any comments or thoughts on the quality of http://www.alc.co.jp ? i'm loving it and think it's a lot of fun, but how trustworthy are the sentences?

I dunno.
about a year ago when I started using a SRS I got an interest into it and I showed a couple of sentences to one of my teachers at Yamasa : she clearly told me there was something off about the sentence even if she wasnt really able to tell what (to be fair as I had barely started , back then my understanding of japanese was REALLY poor) . 6months ago back to my country other school , other teacher no problem whatsoever , go ahead you can use them.

It makes me a bit uneasy as I m still wondering if the latter was totally incompetent or the former was dishonest for some some unacknowledged reasons.
But it seems to me that ALC sentences either comes from a dictionnary or from internet articles .... so I ll bet on the secund option .

Anyway ALC is not meant to be a primary source for the long term : past a year /half and a year you really should try using japanese dictionary either yahoo dic or a EPWING offline dictionnary . In the meantime even if there were some flaws here and there I don t think it would permanently harm your skills.