Vosmiura,

Do you think it's possible to have a graphic that shows "Total Reviews over Time" and "Total Review Time over Time"? Would seem useful to see how many reviews you've done over the last month, or 3 months, or 6 months, etc.

Nuke, it's pretty easy to add new graphs but isn't that what the regular "Reps" and "Review Time" graphs show?

nonpoint Wrote:Don't worry about success-rate, you'll be reminded till you get it.
You used the example 高速道路 and you only knew 高 from another word. Get some intermediate things and build up so you are going i+1.

Not worrying about the success rate is so key. Focus on learning them, if you can't seem to get it down this time try again later.

I don't like "The Iversen Method" since it makes me use a pen and paper :p
Also learning to write Japanese manually isn't exactly on the top of my list of things to learn now. I mean in English the only time I really write things on paper is filling out personal info and signing your name.

Since learning vocab is making my head explode and I'm not exactly sure why, I figured I'd ask you guys a couple questions in terms of how you learn vocab, how you recall it, and doing all that in conjunction with the readings and kanji.

First of all, so far I've found that learning vocab is incredibly incredibly difficult, and I can't figure out why. I didn't have this problem in french at all. I can pick up vocab from reading novels etc, and although I don't study them at all, they typically stick. Granted I'm worlds farther in french than in japanese, but even in the beginning it wasn't this difficult.

When you guys are learning and such do your connections go "kanji to word" and disregard what the actual readings of the kanji are, and just let exposure take care of "this kanji can be read these ways" or do you learn "this kanji has this reading, this kanji has this reading" and when you put them together you make this word which happens to be pronounced like this, as a consequence of the readings of the kanji?

I know it sounds confusing but hopefully one of you will realize what I mean and be able to answer. I just need to figure out what I'm doing wrong so I can get back into the groove I was in before. It's pretty discouraging to go from 100 kanji a day with high recall rates to maybe a handful of vocab a day with low recall rates haha.

Generally I learn kanji with words as opposed to learning kanji readings separately and then putting them together, but I find it's easier to learn words that use the same kanji together. In this way it makes it easier to learn that kanji's readings and several words at the same time.

The book I've been using orders all kanji by the same onyomi too - so this makes things easier still. For example it introduces 口工公広交校光考行更肯郊候耕康港... in one section because they all have こう readings - and in total introduces about 100 words that use those kanji.

How it really goes varies somewhat from word to word. Sometimes I read words in one go; sometimes it is more like recalling the readings for each kanji individually; and sometimes the reading just comes from the sound signals in the kanji (which you get used to after a while) without paying full attention to the kanji itself.

vosmiura Wrote:Generally I learn kanji with words as opposed to learning kanji readings separately and then putting them together, but I find it's easier to learn words that use the same kanji together. In this way it makes it easier to learn that kanji's readings and several words at the same time.

The book I've been using orders all kanji by the same onyomi too - so this makes things easier still. For example it introduces 口工公広交校光考行更肯郊候耕康港... in one section because they all have こう readings - and in total introduces about 100 words that use those kanji.

How it really goes varies somewhat from word to word. Sometimes I read words in one go; sometimes it is more like recalling the readings for each kanji individually; and sometimes the reading just comes from the sound signals in the kanji (which you get used to after a while) without paying full attention to the kanji itself.

What is that book called?

http://www.amazon.co.jp/例文で学ぶ漢字と言葉-西口-光一...00-9873429