i've been wondering what is SRSing... i've been doing it at this site and with anki but it still bugs me because i don't know what is SRSing, what it aims to achieve, what exactly is the process of SRSing, how do i do SRSing, and such questions... anyways i've been so busy lately that my RTK studying is at snail pace... and from time to time i take this uber long test(all of what i know currently 168 lesson 8 of RTK) using my flash cards and i'm happy with the results since i get perfect scores with it sometimes 1 or 2 mistakes...
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is what i do like SRS or totally different...? i just wanna know what is SRS and everything about it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition

Using an SRS makes the way you remember things more efficient. If you were to learn kanji without it you would be writing the kanji hundreds of times. However with an SRS you should only have to do about 10 reviews before you know it really well.

bombpersons Wrote:Using an SRS makes the way you remember things more efficient. If you were to learn kanji without it you would be writing the kanji hundreds of times. However with an SRS you should only have to do about 10 reviews before you know it really well.

Such wishful thinking! I wish this were true with me.......

http://ichi2.net/anki/whyreview.html

Spaced repetition and Spaced reminder and Spaced remembrance kind of sums it up.

Spaced repetition means doing the same thing again and again, but at further and further intervals apart. It could something as simple as making an Origami bird crane one day, then 3 days later, then a week later, then two weeks later, etc. In between than ever expanding amount of time you can be practicing other items.

Think of it as the opposite of the Skinner box training. In a Skinner box, you would get reward after 1 repetition, then 2, then 4, then 8 reps, then 16, etc. etc. etc. You get really, really good at the repetitions to get the reward that becomes more time consuming to achieve. Anyone that's played RPG's on computers are probably victims of Skinner box training :^P

The Spaced Repetition concept is adapted for memorizing items or procedures by resetting or reducing the spacing for repetition that was done incorrectly. Using the Crane example, if you made a mistake after 2 weeks you wouldn't wait 4 weeks as you'll like still make the same mistake. Best to wait 2 weeks or even less assuming you corrected your mistake. Hence why some would call it a Spaced Remembrance system.

I think a spaced reminder system is a bit more passive. It's being reminded of information at spaced intervals. You're not doing anything other than hearing the data. Such things can be useful for shadowing tapes, arranging listening selections of music or videos, etc.

There's many many more ideas on the above I'm sure. Those are just my interpretations on the matter without using flashcards in the explanation.

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bombpersons Wrote:Using an SRS makes the way you remember things more efficient. If you were to learn kanji without it you would be writing the kanji hundreds of times. However with an SRS you should only have to do about 10 reviews before you know it really well.

I disagree. You are confusing the RTK method (or similar approach), with the SRS as an aid for memorizing.

If this were true then RTK is pointless and all people need is a god almighty SRS with kanji on their flashcards and it don't matter if the kanji has 28 strokes or 3, it will be rememberd all the same by the magics of the spaced repetition.

SRSes are just an aid for memorizing,

and in fact personally I view it more as an aid to be exposed to material on a regular basis, to remember material over a certain period of time where you are busy with it. It keeps you "high" for maximum learning efficiency. Which is vastly different from the self deceptive goal of wanting to remember something forever (that said you can do like the SuperMemo author and keep yourself "high" on information pretty much all your life, but in his case he's doing it for research purposes or just obsession...).

It aids learning, that's all. It doesn't learn for you!