so when I download core10, it should contain the addition 4000 and not 10000?

Core10k covers core6k + 4000 other words. Core also contains a lot of words I wouldn't count independently, for example negative forms, but whatever, let's count them as 4000 other words. This works the same way with core6k, which contains core2k + 4000 other words.

Anyhow, I didn't mean to refer to core10k. I was referring to the 10k sentence deck.

warakawa Wrote:so when I download core10, it should contain the addition 4000 and not 10000?

It depends on the deck. It should say in the description what it covers.

I'm pretty sure there are at least two different core10k decks--one that just contains words #6001-10000, and one that contains all 10k words.

Why is everyone so obsessed with core6k here?

I like to make my own deck because then I review what I've learned instead of seemingly arbitrarily chosen sentences...
That is the only way this process can actually be quite fun.

I think that depends on the person.
I like core 6K because I have RSI so adding words to a deck can be a pain( literally :p).
And I like that it comes with sound. If I'd make my own deck it'd be a lot harder to add that unless I use those text to speech programs, which just isn't the same.


Also...there's a core 10K?


I'm only 795 kanji away from completing RTK :3
I'm going to slow down now though and divide it over about 25 days, doing one lesson a day.

@Stian: core6k is a frequency-based deck. I guess that's all that needs to be said

Wooh, 5k vocab! The last 1000 were really a drag. I can't wait to switch to the proofread deck (in 2.5k). Just thinking of Nagereboshi's 24k makes me ache. I guess some people aren't cut for making their own decks. Anyway, good luck in your studies everyone!

I've started recognising words a lot more easily now, even if I haven't seen them for awhile. As well as this, I keep saying words that I'm not sure where the hell I even learned, but apparently know. My girlfriend was playing Phoenix Wright earlier, Detective Gumshoe popped up and I said instantly: 「けいじ」! Definitely don't know where I picked that one up.

I'm sure you'll think it's not exactly an amazing moment, but definitely very motivating for me!

Tykkylumi Wrote:I've started recognising words a lot more easily now, even if I haven't seen them for awhile. As well as this, I keep saying words that I'm not sure where the hell I even learned, but apparently know. My girlfriend was playing Phoenix Wright earlier, Detective Gumshoe popped up and I said instantly: 「けいじ」! Definitely don't know where I picked that one up.

I'm sure you'll think it's not exactly an amazing moment, but definitely very motivating for me!

I'm playing that game too! I was really happy when I understood 「被告人の名前は？」(What is the defendant's name?) and chose 「矢張政志」and the next question 「被害者の名前は？」(What is the victim's name?) and picked 「高日美佳」^_^

The fact I was able to instinctly guess the questions and respond correctly feels like an accomplishment for me.

I found the walkthrough for all the Phoenix Wright games in Japanese

http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~kay/aSaiban.htm

Great way to extract vocab and add to Anki via Rikaisama and of course guide you through the game lol

Awesome! I am definitely going to play them in Japanese some time in the near future (once I've gotten through this textbook maybe). Have played the first 4 in English so that should help me out a bit in case I get stuck (and my gf is playing in English as... she doesn't know any Japanese lol).

That website looks useful, have bookmarked it for later use. I was looking around for a Phoenix Wright deck but that looks good too!

I got up to the 3rd case (with the samurai) in English but got stuck. So instead of staying stagnate, I decided to give the Japanese version a go.

Good thing the Japanese version of the game made an English counterpart within the game so I can just save my progress from 1 language and continue from another asap

I love phoenix wright, played it a while back much before starting Japanese though.

OMG yay! Found the entrie script for the Phoenix Wright game in Japanese ^_^

http://m-space.jp/a/novel2.php?ID=hareku...e=0&view=1

I just found the English script too GameFAQs so I don't need to post it

RawrPk Wrote:OMG yay! Found the entrie script for the Phoenix Wright game in Japanese ^_^

http://m-space.jp/a/novel2.php?ID=hareku...e=0&view=1

I just found the English script too GameFAQs so I don't need to post it

You can also watch the movie if you know where to look. I found a copy with Japanese subs. Was decent.

Just finished RTK lite (+~200 Kanji), and what a relief!! Can't believe I'm finally back to studying Japanese after three years At the time I stopped I was done with full RTK, and doing Tae Kim's, so I'm still behind, but I'm trading the rest of RTK for a head start in TK and Core.

Off to Tae Kim's ^_^

After a few weeks of neglecting Japanese, I finally mustered up enough motivation to do something drastic. I deleted every single deck/card that I made. RTK 1 and 3, and 1,400+ sentences including all of Tae Kim.

It feels really good to start over actually. I felt like all those cards were weighing me down. I dreaded opening up Anki every day because I saw a lot of RTK reviews left unanswered (~1,200), and my sentence deck was rapidly approaching the same number of overdue cards. So my plan moving forward is this: go through RTK again, but slowly since I'm already familiar with all of the kanji anyway. I might end up nixing this step because keeping up with the traditional RTK deck seems time consuming and my time may be better spent working with actual Japanese. The second part is a J-J sentence deck, similar to the methods on Japanese Level Up. Definition branching is a lot tougher than I imagined. The amount of new words that I have to look up seems exponential, but it's a new challenge and I'm having fun doing it.

I'm also thinking about working on some sort of listening deck that has the audio from a JDrama/the news on the front and definitions (J-J) on the back. Has anyone else tried this format? Did it help with listening comprehension?

After some major motivational issues I finally hit 800 Kanji today. Next aim: 1000.

Added my 2000th anki sentence card a few days ago. I'm glad I didn't do something like Core6k... Adding sentences from stuff you care about is so much better than textbook sentences. (I haven't opened a Japanese textbook since September, and I started in July)

Tori-kun Wrote:@Stian: core6k is a frequency-based deck. I guess that's all that needs to be said

Sure, but why study a premade deck stuffed with boring, contextless, textbook sentences?

You will learn the most common words by, you know, immersion and stuff, and taking your sentences from websites, books, video games etc. (At least, you will learn the words commonly encountered by you -- and Anki was made for remembering stuff you learn, not to teach you stuff.)

I broke 2k Kanji the day before JLPT1 and probably did well on JLPT1 as well.

2k kanji doesn't seem like enough at all, though. I wonder what figure I'd have to reach to feel comfortable reading most everything I come across. Names are especially terrible...

Silly as it sounds, last night while watching yet another silly Japanese quiz show my wife had on, I found myself actually BEATING the Japanese players on the kanji stroke order game. Not only did I know the damn things, but I knew how to write them in the correct order. Admittedly, I was 'playing' against a bunch of talents on a show designed to make them look silly, but I was still impressed with myself.

JusenkyoGuide Wrote:Silly as it sounds, last night while watching yet another silly Japanese quiz show my wife had on, I found myself actually BEATING the Japanese players on the kanji stroke order game. Not only did I know the damn things, but I knew how to write them in the correct order. Admittedly, I was 'playing' against a bunch of talents on a show designed to make them look silly, but I was still impressed with myself.

I would like to watch it too, and impress myself Any links or something?

Read the opening to DoBJG and was blown away by it. I learned so many new things and got a clear & more detailed explanation to a lot of rules I already knew. I really don't know why I haven't done it before, its just 60 pages and no other resource covers these topics like that.

Now on to DoIJG...

thurd Wrote:Read the opening to DoBJG and was blown away by it. I learned so many new things and got a clear & more detailed explanation to a lot of rules I already knew. I really don't know why I haven't done it before, its just 60 pages and no other resource covers these topics like that.

Now on to DoIJG...

You may find appendixes equally interesting.

App. 1 Basic Conjugations - you must learn those by heart.
App. 2 - 4, 6, 7 - just be familiar with.
App. 5 Ko-sa-a-do - it's basics you are unlikely to be new to.
App. 8 Improving Reading Skills by Identifying an 'Extended Sentential Unit' - enlightening lecture on parsing less-then-trivial phrases.

I just got the guide book for 二ノ国 it is somewhat head to read but it helps me play the game and do the side quest. I am not going to lie it can get very overwhelming trying to read a guide book. Do you guys have any advice/ stories about reading you would like to share? Is anyone at the level you can read a guide book with ease?

meeatcookies Wrote:

JusenkyoGuide Wrote:Silly as it sounds, last night while watching yet another silly Japanese quiz show my wife had on, I found myself actually BEATING the Japanese players on the kanji stroke order game. Not only did I know the damn things, but I knew how to write them in the correct order. Admittedly, I was 'playing' against a bunch of talents on a show designed to make them look silly, but I was still impressed with myself.

I would like to watch it too, and impress myself Any links or something?

Alas, no. My wife just had it on TV and I wandered into the middle of it.