while i don't have a Mac, i just read a about a new feature that made me wish I did: http://www.tofugu.com/2009/06/09/why-you...t-10726367 that recognizing of kanji thing looks perfect for practicing writing

in other news, i am waiting on picking up my iPhone 3GS on the 19th... i've been doing without a cellphone for months since my last cellphone contract expired in order to get it

I haven't updated my OS in a long time...I refuse to pay their ridiculous prices, and downloading illegally always takes way too long and confuses me

I am thinking of getting an iPhone though, as it looks pretty nifty. I just dunno if I can handle those monthly payments... and I am convinced that AT&T is the remainder of Satan's last visit to earth.

Aijin Wrote:I haven't updated my OS in a long time...I refuse to pay their ridiculous prices, and downloading illegally always takes way too long and confuses me

I am thinking of getting an iPhone though, as it looks pretty nifty. I just dunno if I can handle those monthly payments... and I am convinced that AT&T is the remainder of Satan's last visit to earth.

I wouldn't be surprised if AT&T loses its exclusivity deal with Apple once the contract expires, which is relatively soon I think (?). Wait until you can get it on another carrier. They are pretty awesome though, I love mine (I've got a 3G, not the new 3GS)

why is AT&T so bad? (i don't really know so much about them) my last carrier was Alltel and they were great to me....

I've had nothing but problems with their phone and internet services. Not just normal problems, but vein-popping, headline-murder problems. Their custmer service makes me want to...how do I say this politely...stab myself repeatedly with a plastic knife

well maybe i can hope that they will get the kinks worked out at some point... i just hope it picks up decently around where i live...

hmmm i'm looking at the area coverage and it says i'm in the "moderate" area.... there is no 3G area near me except near where i work (which is about 30 mins away) that sucks...

EDIT: i see they have a 30-day trial period with AT&T... i might check that out...

I wonder if the writing recognition requires a multi-touch capable mac. There should be no technical requirement since you'll only have one finger on the pad at a time..

Aijin Wrote:I've had nothing but problems with their phone and internet services. Not just normal problems, but vein-popping, headline-murder problems. Their custmer service makes me want to...how do I say this politely...stab myself repeatedly with a plastic knife

Or commit seppuku with a bamboo sword

Oh, no, I watched the movie 切腹 when I was a kid. I know better than that!

I had been wondering why writing kanji on my trackpad was not possible.

Aijin Wrote:I haven't updated my OS in a long time...I refuse to pay their ridiculous prices, and downloading illegally always takes way too long and confuses me

I am thinking of getting an iPhone though, as it looks pretty nifty. I just dunno if I can handle those monthly payments... and I am convinced that AT&T is the remainder of Satan's last visit to earth.

Are you for real? I mean, I could understand if you were talking about Windows, but OS X?

Downloading it is no harder than anything else, and all you have to do is burn it on to a CD and install. There's absolutely no copy protection or any hoops to jump through.

And Apple's OS upgrades are reasonably priced anyway. You can get 5 licenses for $150 (Leopard) or a single license for $99. Snow Leopard is going to be $29 for current Leopard owners and $50 for Tiger and below for 1 license.

You're thinking about buying an iPhone ($800 unlocked; $300 in a contract that turns into something like $2,400 worth of data/phone service over two years) but you can't spend $100 to upgrade your OS?

Snow Leopard will only set you back $29, so wait for that You'll need a Mac with an Intel processor though.

Well if you bought an unlocked version of a 3G you could get one for under $100 from someone upgrading to the 3Gs, and I'm sure you'll be able to buy an unlocked 3Gs for $20 more than normal price if you know where to look.

klaoth Wrote:Well if you bought an unlocked version of a 3G you could get one for under $100 from someone upgrading to the 3Gs, and I'm sure you'll be able to buy an unlocked 3Gs for $20 more than normal price if you know where to look.

I doubt you'd be able to find an original iPhone for under $100. If the 3G launch was any indication, I imagine that prices for the 3G iPhone will be around $300-400, for the summer at least.

FutureBlues Wrote:Are you for real? I mean, I could understand if you were talking about Windows, but OS X?

Downloading it is no harder than anything else, and all you have to do is burn it on to a CD and install. There's absolutely no copy protection or any hoops to jump through.

And Apple's OS upgrades are reasonably priced anyway. You can get 5 licenses for $150 (Leopard) or a single license for $99. Snow Leopard is going to be $29 for current Leopard owners and $50 for Tiger and below for 1 license.

You're thinking about buying an iPhone ($800 unlocked; $300 in a contract that turns into something like $2,400 worth of data/phone service over two years) but you can't spend $100 to upgrade your OS?

When I torrented and then tried to install 10.5 there were a lot more steps than that, requiring various programs. In the end it didn't work for me.

Besides, the new iPhone is only 199$, and the old one 99$. 100$ is too much to upgrade my OS because all the changes are always pretty insignificant...I bought OSX when it first came out, because the difference was huge between that and OS 9. But 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5 ... it pretty much is all the same to me. The 'upgrades' seem trivial I think.

PAY for an OPERATING SYSTEM?!!!
Linux FTW

Linux doesn't run iLife.

The only reason I upgraded to 10.5 was to be able to run its Dictionary application with the Japanese dictionaries and add a custom Chinese dictionary to it. My 4 year-old Powerbook probably won't handle any more upgrades.

pubbie Wrote:Oh, and Macs are for douchebags.

That's kind of douchebaggy. Grow up.

pubbie Wrote:[...]
Oh, and Macs are for douchebags.

What are you five? I thought this was a Kanji study forum. My wife uses a mac by the way.

welp, i finally got my iPhone 3GS finally... best phone i ever owned... only 1 problem, i get NO SERVICE IN MY AREA!!! i really want to cry now i guess i'll have to return it and hope someone besides AT&T picks up the iPhone at some point... but for anyone that does get service, the phone really kicks ass... the internet and other apps run very fast, i highly recommend it!

Hashiriya Wrote:welp, i finally got my iPhone 3GS finally... best phone i ever owned... only 1 problem, i get NO SERVICE IN MY AREA!!! i really want to cry now i guess i'll have to return it and hope someone besides AT&T picks up the iPhone at some point... but for anyone that does get service, the phone really kicks ass... the internet and other apps run very fast, i highly recommend it!

Thats really sucky :-( I presume you got it on contract though right? I mean...you can't return a contract can you? How does that work?

you get 30 days to return it without having to worry about the contract, so i will be fine...

I think I'll have to wait a few weeks to buy one. All sold out, and I was too silly to pre-order. After having to go through AT&T Tech Support Hell again a few days ago I only hope they offer the iPhone on other providers eventually.