I was wondering if anybody was studying for this test. Seems like the "next step" after １級. And it will get you admitted into a Japanese university. It looks pretty hard though. There's a section where you have to write something (adressing a common complaint about the JLPT) and 3 other sections:

1. 「記述問題（作文）」（最高6点、20分）
2. 「読解（長文読解）」（最高160点、30分）
3. 「聴解（問題文が一切印刷されない聞き取り）」（最高120点）
4. 「聴読解（資料を見ながらの聞き取り）」（最高120点）

According to wikipedia, Japanese ability is not directly tested. What is tested is your ability to understand and use Japanese in order to answer questions.

There's also another part where you take either a science or liberal arts exam. I guess that passing this must require something pretty close to native fluency in the language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Examination..._Admission

A better next step is to take JTEST. According to them 1kyuu on JLPT is only around B-kyuu on JTEST, which goes as high as special-a-kyuu. There is also a short writing portion on the test.

The other logical next step is JBIZ, which is arguably more useful since it shows that you can function in a Japanese business environment. It includes an oral interview and role-playing in a second test if you get a good enough grade on the written portion.

There are also tests intended for native Japanese, such as kanji kentei and nihongo kentei. Very very few Japanese people are able to pass 1kyuu of kanji kentei.

And how hard do you think passing the EJU would be for someone who has passed 1kyuu?

I've never taken the EJU so I can't say. You do have to know everything else that's on the test too though, not just Japanese. I skimmed a test prep book at bookoff once but since I know nothing about chemistry I would have failed it.

Unless you actually want to goto a Japanese university I'd say there are much better ways to spend your time.

I did an elective "Preparting for the University test" when I was studying Japanese in Japan.

Funnily enough, like the JLPT the main thing you need is vocab and reading speed. The test has the following parts. Can't remember the real order..

1. Writting
2. Reading
3. Listening
4. Reading + Listening

Writing:

We were told that almost anyone can get full marks. You have some topic and you have to agree or disagree with it. There is a set pattern that you follow and basically just fill in the blanks relating. So something like: state the topic, state your stance, state your reasoning, (たしかに) acknolodge contrary viewpoints, (しかし) offer your rebuttal of them, conclude by restating you stance. It's not very long so if you do those parts briefly you are done. Anyway, you just need to find a good example.

Be wary though, you can't afford to do this badly apparently, because universities interested in you have access to it as well as your overall score. If they don't like the way you write or construct arguments then they can reject you if they want.

Reading

IMO the hardest section. You have bugger all time and the questions get progressively harder. You need to average something like a minute and a half a question, but as they get harder, you want to get through the early ones in a minute or less and save time for the harder questions. Due to the speed requirement, they taught us ways to avoid reading it all. First read the question, then look for key parts of the text. For example, often the writer will crap on about some situation and very view points on it then put in しかし and say what they think. This is often the most important bit and what you need to answer the question.

Listening

Not super hard.

Listening + Reading

You listen to some text and then something like a corrosponding graph or table. You need the ability to scan Japanese to do really well here. You need to scan it at the start quickly to get the gist particularly reading all the headings, then follow what is said to find the information you need. I personally didn't find it that hard.

The other element of the test is there are no breaks. You have something like 15 seconds break between sections. I forget how long the test is, but you need endurance. You need to be able to focus and do the test without completely tiring yourself.

Anyway, from what I was told it is very doable and like most Japanese tests, you just need to know the way as opposed to have great Japanese. So do many past tests and check out the writing of people who got perfect scores.

Thanks for the information Thermal. According to Paul_b from TJP, it's way easier than JLPT1.

Anybody interested can find a sample exam here:

http://www.jasso.go.jp/eju/examination.html

sample writing question:

姿や能力を人間により近づけたコンピュータ・ロボットの研究が進んでいます。何年か
先に，コンピュータ・ロボットがあなたの子どもの遊び相手として家に来てくれるよう
なサービスができたとします。費用は無料です。あなたはそのサービスに申し込みます
か，申し込みませんか。理由を挙げて考えを４００字程度で書いてください（句読点を含
む）。

Very typically Japanese. Would you hire an android "computer robot" to play with your child? no thanks.

Why bother having children if you can just buy some androids?

Good point. But wouldn't you then need to make children to entertain the androids? No one likes an angry droid.

Well English exams that international students take here clearly are too easy. The students I see come out are ***** shocking.

liosama Wrote:Well English exams that international students take here clearly are too easy. The students I see come out are ***** shocking.

They givem just enough English to be able to understand what you're shouting them, lol.

I took a test for a scholarship 2 weeks ago. The test had 20 questions, each question had a text. They didn't go easy on the Kanjis, but that was not the hard part. Each text was an editorial from the news or a magazine and the questions were really hard to understand, very confusing. Anyone took the same test?

Was it the Monbusho scholarship? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monbukagakusho_Scholarship

Transparent_Aluminium Wrote:Anybody interested can find a sample exam here:

http://www.jasso.go.jp/eju/examination.html

I haven't studied chemistry or biology much but I have studied physics and maths and I work in finance. I found everything but the chemistry and biology sections very easy. I'd say the JLPT 1 is harder.

Yup. It was.

wrightak: You don't even have to take the science exam if you don't want to. It's only for people who want to be admitted in a science related program.

mentats_kgs: How did you study for the exam? Last time I looked there was also an history exam, if I 'm not mistaken.

mentat_kgs Wrote:I took a test for a scholarship 2 weeks ago. The test had 20 questions, each question had a text. They didn't go easy on the Kanjis, but that was not the hard part. Each text was an editorial from the news or a magazine and the questions were really hard to understand, very confusing. Anyone took the same test?

I took the same test. Some were hard and some were easy. Biggest problem? Vocabulary.

For me there was only an English and Japanese exam. I simply thought the test was too big. I could not take the time to read each text calmly.

mentat_kgs Wrote:For me there was only an English and Japanese exam. I simply thought the test was too big. I could not take the time to read each text calmly.

Graduate students only had to take the Japanese test with English optional. Undergraduates have to take the English and Math with the Japanese, and undergraduates who are going into science also have to take Biology and Chemistry. I bombed the Math.

After 1級？ o.o
OMG! I was told that Only　2級　And above was required。 Fukuoka daigaku told me that too.

I'm a 2 year college student (asian studies) and I'm now studying 中級日本語. With ALT books and with AIAIJ, with some help from the dictionaries of japanese grammar. Within 2 or 3 months I'll have intermediate japanese (level 3), at least in theory. I'm studying everyday new grammar, new vocabulary (anki), I just don't study when I have tests.
My course only lasts 3 years. I intend on studying japanese as much as possible until I finish it.

I want to take a masters in Japan, as I said. What should I do regarding this examination?

After finishing my bachelors I'm considering going to Japan to study japanese with a scholarship from a portuguese institution and then, when I have enough command of the language to apply for a masters in Japan, but then I don't know if I'd be able to get another scholarship...
This, if I happen not to be able to enter a university after the bachelors, which is very likely I think.

I still seaching for universities, and so far only fukuoka daigaku and "Japanese-Language Institute, an affiliated organization of the Japan Foundation" Japanese language master's (site off for 1 or 2 days) are the ones that suit my wishes.

I'm already saving money, and I want to see if I can get a part-time job (showing oporto wine to japanese people) in summer. Still don't know if this option is actually possible.


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