Jarvik7 Wrote:I've also never heard of "sick as a parrot". It's not really much of an idiom though since the meaning is just "is sick".It's not used for "is sick" like 病気, it's for being very unhappy / disappointed about something.
blackmacros Wrote:Uhh, you've met very few Australians then. Australians idolize Steve Irwin and rightly so. He was very passionate about animals and the environment. I've been to his zoo, I've seen the messages and gifts people have left for him. An Australian may roll their eyes when you try to do an impression of Steve Irwin, but they are very proud of what he accomplished, and how famous he became globally.Jarvik7 Wrote:boy she's a beut'.Oh god :-(
Steve Irwin laid it on pretty thick
I've yet to meet a single Australian who did not hate that man
captal Wrote:I'm not really talking about his accomplishments, and I'm aware that many people were very, very sad when he died. I don't mean to disparage his achievements.blackmacros Wrote:Uhh, you've met very few Australians then. Australians idolize Steve Irwin and rightly so. He was very passionate about animals and the environment. I've been to his zoo, I've seen the messages and gifts people have left for him. An Australian may roll their eyes when you try to do an impression of Steve Irwin, but they are very proud of what he accomplished, and how famous he became globally.Jarvik7 Wrote:boy she's a beut'.Oh god :-(
Steve Irwin laid it on pretty thick
I've yet to meet a single Australian who did not hate that man
I know you're just joking, and I'm not even Australian, but it's pretty insulting if you truly know his background and what a great guy he was.
blackmacros Wrote:Having said that, most Australians I know (and being Australian I know a few ;-)Remove foot from mouth... Haha, that's funny
Sorry about that, but you said "every Australian I've met" like you weren't an Australian.Quote:dislike him exactly because of the way he portrayed himself when he become famous. Imagine if a Japanese or Chinese person were to become globally famous like that and purposefully spoke like a stereotype as a part of his persona-"I rike flied lice" etc etc. Don't you think a lot of Asian people would find that insulting?Don't you think that was just his personality? Did he really change much when he became famous worldwide from when he was just famous in Australia?
captal Wrote:Haha no worries mateblackmacros Wrote:Having said that, most Australians I know (and being Australian I know a few ;-)Remove foot from mouth... Haha, that's funny
Quote:dislike him exactly because of the way he portrayed himself when he become famous. Imagine if a Japanese or Chinese person were to become globally famous like that and purposefully spoke like a stereotype as a part of his persona-"I rike flied lice" etc etc. Don't you think a lot of Asian people would find that insulting?Don't you think that was just his personality? Did he really change much when he became famous worldwide from when he was just famous in Australia?
I never, ever had the feeling when I lived in Australia that people had anything but a lot of love and respect for Steve. So I was surprised to see someone write that every Australian they've met hated him. (I lived on the Gold Coast and Brisbane though, maybe Queenslanders have more love for the guy?)
Anyway, this is like a tangent on a tanget, sorry to derail for a few posts
) civilised lives, very much devoid of crocodiles or overly-emphasised Australian accents I don't know whether he acted like that in real life, but I have a feeling a lot of it was just his stage persona.
blackmacros Wrote:Having said that, most Australians I know (and being Australian I know a few ;-) ) dislike him exactly because of the way he portrayed himself when he become famous. Imagine if a Japanese or Chinese person were to become globally famous like that and purposefully spoke like a stereotype as a part of his persona-"I rike flied lice" etc etc. Don't you think a lot of Asian people would find that insulting?If the performance is good enough, they might give him an ovation. Especially if he's playing the dude who knows who the dude he's playing knows the dude you're playing does not really know who he is.
blackmacros Wrote:EDIT: And similarly, how I've heard that a lot of people dislike the Americans who become TV stars in Japan- because they purposefully speak Japanese with an American accent and emphasise stereotypical American attributes. People get annoyed because they generally dislike it when people perpetuate (untrue) stereotypes about their culture.The funny thing is... those "American TV stars" are probably Australians.
kazelee Wrote:The funny thing is... those "American TV stars" are probably Australians.That is another thing. Often times, I find many Australian actors are able to imitate perfect American accents. It really confuses me to find out that some are Australian.
kazelee Wrote:I'm confused...blackmacros Wrote:Having said that, most Australians I know (and being Australian I know a few ;-) ) dislike him exactly because of the way he portrayed himself when he become famous. Imagine if a Japanese or Chinese person were to become globally famous like that and purposefully spoke like a stereotype as a part of his persona-"I rike flied lice" etc etc. Don't you think a lot of Asian people would find that insulting?If the performance is good enough, they might give him an ovation. Especially if he's playing the dude who knows who the dude he's playing knows the dude you're playing does not really know who he is.
kazelee Wrote:And unfortunately the world is full of retards :-(blackmacros Wrote:EDIT: And similarly, how I've heard that a lot of people dislike the Americans who become TV stars in Japan- because they purposefully speak Japanese with an American accent and emphasise stereotypical American attributes. People get annoyed because they generally dislike it when people perpetuate (untrue) stereotypes about their culture.The funny thing is... those "American TV stars" are probably Australians.
The way I see it, if someone's dumb enough to believe that stereotypical characters on television are representative of an entire group of people, then that someone is a retard.
) I reserve the right to be a hypocrit
blackmacros Wrote:EDIT: Also, should I ever get the chance? I would whore the F*** out of my Australian accent for fame, wealth and beautiful women. I would debase myself and my country at the drop of a hat.ROFL. At least you're honest.
Smackle Wrote:Like the hot redhead in Wedding Crashers? Russel Crowe, Nicole Kidman, etc.kazelee Wrote:The funny thing is... those "American TV stars" are probably Australians.That is another thing. Often times, I find many Australian actors are able to imitate perfect American accents. It really confuses me to find out that some are Australian.
kazelee Wrote:Well ofcourse people think like that, for example think, if you've never seen a South African person before and you hear one speaking English with a heavy south african accent on TV, duh, it's common sense that you'd think all (or at least a lot) of Sounth Africans would speak like that. Imagine for a second a Chinese or Japanese person speaking English.........blackmacros Wrote:The way I see it, if someone's dumb enough to believe that stereotypical characters on television are representative of an entire group of people, then that someone is a retard.
onafarm Wrote:Here's another Australian who had no time for Steve Irwin. I found him annoying and vulgar.I'm Australian too and feel exactly the same way.
I support and admire the work he did, but could not stand his persona.
Most everyone I know shares this view. He was far more popular and famous in the US than in Australia.
Gingerninja Wrote:That's the point. Dorothy Parker was challenged to create a sentence with the word "horticulture" and this is the one she created. I find it hilarious.Tobberoth Wrote:Looking around google for these phrases, I found one I liked:I'm assuming that's a play on words, or a typo, as that makes little sense otherwise. (Whore to culture, perhaps?) The original phrase would be...
You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.
