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Have these kanji changed or am I going mad?

#1
The kanji for "risk" and "tool" seem to have changed on the flashcards from how I remember them, or at least how they're printed in the RTK1 book. Are they different here (after the update), and why? or maybe I'm going mad.

I don't remember the "eye" being attached to the line below it in "tool", and I remember the top radical in "risk" being a full-on sun, not two lines and a covering..
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#2
Those characters look different in different fonts, depending on what language the font was designed for (Chinese, Japanese, etc.) You can paste the characters into http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/...ntlist.htm and compare how they look in the various fonts you have installed on your computer.
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#3
"Tool" and "risk" looks fine on my computer. The "eye" is not attached to the line and I see a full "sun" in "risk".
You sure you haven't changed your system font?
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#4
Well that's probably it, it's probably because I'm using linux/ubuntu. Neat tool.

Hey, what webpage encoding are you using? I'm trying to find one that represents the kanji correctly without messing up other ornate roman characters.
Edited: 2009-03-25, 3:08 pm
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#5
I'm using ISO-8859-1. But when I read text in Japanese in think the system changes the font to UTF-8
Edited: 2009-03-25, 3:16 pm
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#6
I ran a lot of tests while I am refactoring the website and found out how it works.

If you can name a font that exists on the user system, and set it through a stylesheet, it will use that and display hanzi or kanji appropriately depending on the font, and will IGNORE the language attribute.

If the font is not found, then depending on which browser you use, it may or may not select the correct font IF a language attribute is present.

The latter is called "Automatic font assignment".

More reading for those with insomnia :

Examples of language dependent characters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unifica...characters

Document-level Language Declaration, Test Results
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/re...eclaration

Automatic font assignment for CJK text
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/sec-cjk-fonts


This is already fixed in the "refactored" flashcard review mode. Though which font exactly it will use on Linux I dont know. But basically if you see the "language dependent characters" correctly above it will work. If not, then you need to tell your lazy browser what fonts to use explicitly, somewhere in Preferences.

I was amazed to discover, for example, that Opera doesn't support the Automatic font assignment, so the 5 columns of characters in the Wikipedia page above look the same on my system. Even Safari 3 beta doesn't handle it properly. IE6 and Firefox do.
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#7
Rujiel Wrote:I'm using linux/ubuntu.
You might want to set
Code:
PANGO_LANGUAGE='en;ja'
somewhere suitable. This tells the font manager that when it's looking for a font for a character and the web page or whatever hasn't told it what language it's in it should prefer English and then Japanese fonts. (The 'English first' bit is so we don't use Japanese fonts for standard Latin text because that almost always looks awful; the 'Japanese' bit stops it picking a Chinese font for half the text.)
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#8
I've got Kubuntu. By default Linux comes with some pretty poor fonts. I mean they're stylistic but they miss out lots of characters and generally use older forms of many characters like the ones you mentioned.

Download the fonts from this site and install using the instructions here
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#9
When I upgraded IE several years ago it changed the fonts in SM (my SRS) for some reason. I looked for ages for the setting and downloaded new fonts. I had the same problem as you, sun's suddenly looked like sayeth. But also problems where strokes through lines were now by the side of them, endure was one I remember it happening with. I still end up changing the font of some now, as they don't come up that much.
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#10
Raichu Wrote:I've got Kubuntu. By default Linux comes with some pretty poor fonts. I mean they're stylistic but they miss out lots of characters and generally use older forms of many characters like the ones you mentioned.

Download the fonts from this site and install using the instructions here
Thanks - I had the same issues as the OP and the new fonts work great (Ubuntu Hardy Heron).

Brian
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