And if you want to use Ubuntu in Japanese, you should get the localised 日本語 Remix version from http://www.ubuntulinux.jp rather than the main site - it comes with Japanese input, fonts and encoding already set up which saves a lot of fiddling.

thatkidpercy Wrote:And if you want to use Ubuntu in Japanese, you should get the localised 日本語 Remix version from http://www.ubuntulinux.jp rather than the main site - it comes with Japanese input, fonts and encoding already set up which saves a lot of fiddling.

Pretty easy fiddling though.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975144

Tobberoth Wrote:

thatkidpercy Wrote:And if you want to use Ubuntu in Japanese, you should get the localised 日本語 Remix version from http://www.ubuntulinux.jp rather than the main site - it comes with Japanese input, fonts and encoding already set up which saves a lot of fiddling.

Pretty easy fiddling though.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975144

Ya beat me to it.

Edit: By like... and hour... lol

Thanks, thatkidpercy and Tobberoth,
It looks pretty cool, I'll try it out once my laptop is replaced.

skinnyneo Wrote:

Serge Wrote:

ThreadTopic Wrote:What I just did to make my Environment more Japanese

Moved to Japan.

Dang! I was going to use this.

How about AJATT?

....

Yeah. AJATT works, son!

Yeah, in my ubuntu, I instaled the english version. Then translated to the japanese one. It is quite easy and it avoids you to have weird names for your folders, like katakana desktop instead of desktop.

though it's a tad bit unrealistic for me, i discovered an easy way to turn your windows vista os japanese even if you don't have ultimate: http://www.froggie.sk/

igordesu Wrote:though it's a tad bit unrealistic for me, i discovered an easy way to turn your windows vista os japanese even if you don't have ultimate: http://www.froggie.sk/

I doesn't use windows that much but this looks really great, thanks.

mentat_kgs Wrote:Yeah, in my ubuntu, I instaled the english version. Then translated to the japanese one. It is quite easy and it avoids you to have weird names for your folders, like katakana desktop instead of desktop.

What's the problem with having Japanese directory names?

Jarvik7 Wrote:What's the problem with having Japanese directory names?

Its starts getting really annoying to open folders from the run-dialog thingy (alt-f2) and when using the terminal.

uberstuber Wrote:Its starts getting really annoying to open folders from the run-dialog thingy (alt-f2) and when using the terminal.

This run-dialog "thingy" was actually the main reason for me to switch back to an English Ubuntu. I wasn't ready to remember (for recall) program names and such things in Japanese, it heavily slowed down my work-flow. The switch is much easier for people who are more into point & click (so they only have to recognize). Because thats how it usually works in windows I hope to not have similar problems there.

Although I didn't do it (my abilities to control world affairs in order to alter my environment are still lacking), there are about 150 Japanese deploying to my base in Africa

http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/japan-...640306.htm

Now the question is will this help my Japanese. If you've ever been to Japan you notice that Japanese are very considerate and are likely to speak English if you sit with them. Replying to broken English with even more broken Japanese is not a way to improve either (and it does feel rude).

Nukemarine,

Maybe talk to them and let them know that you are interested in learning Japanese, and ask if they'll put up with your broken Japanese and maybe even give you some feedback? My experience (although not with soldiers) has been that the situation you describe is rude and condescending if the foreigner is just trying to show off. But when people find out that you really are making a conscious effort to learn their native language, they usually take a liking to it pretty quick. Very generally speaking, people whose native tongue is not English feel complemented that someone who already speaks English would take the time to learn their native language.

Remember that outside of this forum people who make an honest effort to learn Japanese are few and far between.

Nukemarine Wrote:Although I didn't do it (my abilities to control world affairs in order to alter my environment are still lacking), there are about 150 Japanese deploying to my base in Africa

http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/japan-...640306.htm

Now the question is will this help my Japanese. If you've ever been to Japan you notice that Japanese are very considerate and are likely to speak English if you sit with them. Replying to broken English with even more broken Japanese is not a way to improve either (and it does feel rude).

Which is why you should be the one walking up to them, speaking in Japanese. Let a Japanese person speak English with you and English it is and you won't be able to change it. It's all about being aggressive in the first conversation.

Mafried, it'll be a little more complicated than that. Here, we're both Gaikokujin. However, they'll be on a US Base with English speaking people outnumbering them 40 to 1 (wild guess, no clue), surrounded by English in the media and all around. They want to be working on their English almost as much if not more as I want to work on Japanese. And in all fairness, that's very important to their mission (in addition to learning some French and maybe Arabic).

The easiest thing to do to keep the conversation in Japanese is to sit down and just listen. Don't talk, as that'll encourage the switch to English. Problem is sitting down without getting too involved in the talk at first. It's difficult for a blabber mouth like me.

But that whole "Learn Japanese with people you meet at a Bar" is overrated anyway. What I think is that they'll have multimedia items that can be loaned. It seems the average US serviceman here has every US TV show, movie, music and video game made in the last 30 years on their laptops. I'm sure the Japanese servicemen coming here will have the equivalent in Japanese, in addition to manga and books.

To increase the Japan-o-Factor in my house I did the following:

1. Purchased my wife all new living room furniture as a way to secure the old furniture.
2. Moved all of said old furniture into a corner of the den.
3. Placed all of my souvenirs from my trip to Japan around the room, namely these 70-something trading figurines from Evangelion School that I fell in love with.
4. Started a Kanji Chart. Post a new sheet to the wall every 100 Kanji.
5. Purchased a TB hard drive to hold all my anime, manga and music.
6. Set up my pc for Japanese input (I have a HP touchscreen PC)
7. Stole my wife's beta fish
8. Returned my wife's beta fish, then asked if I could have it in my room.
9. Put the beta fish back in my den
10. Keep Anki open at all times for review and keep Winamp playing J-music when in the room.
11. Declared the corner of the den a Japanese Only Zone, or a NOZ for short. If you are in the corner, you either use Japanese, or you get out and we'll talk in English. (seeing how I only know 200 Kanji so far and a few Japanese words, there isn't any talking going on).
12. Whenever appropriate use Chopsticks while eating in the room.
13. No winking (it's just distracting)

Not all things directly help with learning Japanese, such as the use of chopsticks, or the figures, but it does help to keep a mood in the room. When I go in there I really feel like I’m in a very special part of the house designed, set apart for a purpose.

Lol
I scattered anything that has Japanese all over the place, from books, to leaflets, cards, packaging to cd's and magazines. This way I always have something Japanese 'at reach' and grab something random to read whenever I feel like, lie on bed or do #2 (hehe).
And no, the place is not messy, there's just a lot of stuff lying around

Well, asides from my TV which I need to use my PC (and all my guitars), there's practically little or no English materials in my room.. and.. no Japanese materials, either. It's still a start. I don't get distracted and "un-immersed" if there's no english things roaming around my room.

I'll need to buy some posters and manga at some point to make my room a little more lively.

I stopped wasting so much time on the RtK forums.
...Wait, damn.

To make my environment more Japanese, I started spray painting vulgar Japanese graffiti all over otherwise clean public places that I pass through in day to day life. I also litter Japanese packaging from stuff i import all over the place.

Next I will start replacing emergency/warning signs. I figure it will inspire not only myself but others if I make it a matter of life or death to be able to decipher the Japanese!

nest0r Wrote:To make my environment more Japanese, I started spray painting vulgar Japanese graffiti all over otherwise clean public places that I pass through in day to day life. I also litter Japanese packaging from stuff i import all over the place.

Next I will start replacing emergency/warning signs. I figure it will inspire not only myself but others if I make it a matter of life or death to be able to decipher the Japanese!

Rock on, nest0r! Soon enough your city is going to start thinking that Japan is invading or that the English language has gotten so convoluted that new symbols are popping up at an alarming rate.

KaitouJS Wrote:

nest0r Wrote:To make my environment more Japanese, I started spray painting vulgar Japanese graffiti all over otherwise clean public places that I pass through in day to day life. I also litter Japanese packaging from stuff i import all over the place.

Next I will start replacing emergency/warning signs. I figure it will inspire not only myself but others if I make it a matter of life or death to be able to decipher the Japanese!

Rock on, nest0r! Soon enough your city is going to start thinking that Japan is invading or that the English language has gotten so convoluted that new symbols are popping up at an alarming rate.

Yes, it's time to start being proactive, expand the environment! If enough ppl do it via this model: http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/20...easy-steps , perhaps we can have the memetic equivalent of transplanting plant and animal species from one continent to another. Linguistic bioinvasion, cultural terraforming.

To make my environment more Japanese, I
-Use japanese/chinese numerals, no more 1,2,3 just 一二三..
-Replaced my English Calendar and created my own calendar in japanese.
-Got the 'Zakennayo' book and curse strictly in japanese XD
-Translate japanese song lyrics from romaji to kana and kanji if (I know them)
-Write random non japanese sentences in kana
-Buy chinese newspapers and see how many characters I can identify
-Read japanese children's books

Plus other stuff which I can't think of right now.

I import Japanese games. A play the same shows over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over.... and over....

... to torture the ears of those who would dare pass by.

ムフッハッハハハハハハ

Nii87 Wrote:I stopped wasting so much time on the RtK forums.
...Wait, damn.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4476

If you already haven't I recommend checking that out, and if you don't use FF there's always the localhost file. BLOCK THESE FORUMS NOW.