Hey,
I was wondering about how to go about grammar after doing most of Tae Kim? Because I really want to continue grammar after because I think it's a relatively fun thing to learn.
Does anybody know a good follow up, preferably also including colloquial grammar.


Also I noticed (in manga) that sometimes when a な　is placed at the end of a sentence that it turns the sentence negative; is my interpretation correct, is this colloquial, and does this function depend a lot on the intonation of the sentence...


Thnx for any reply that may come

Perhaps you are referring to something like this:「廊下を走るな」（ろうかをはしるな, don't run in the corridor!）. In that case it's practically a negative imperative (in casual speech), and it has nothing to do with the な particle as far as I know.
Anyway you should infer grammar from the stuff you read and listen to, like you seem to be already doing with manga. I think it's more fun that way, too.

@nac-est
yeah, that's what i'm referring to, thanks (was just checking if what i thought was correct)

I'm pretty sure it is the な particle; "negative imperative" is a reasonable description, and it's also used for emphasis. Some other examples of the negative-ish use:

生きて帰ると思うな

二度と来るな

人の妹に手を出すな

あんた言うな

~J

woodwojr Wrote:I'm pretty sure it is the な particle; "negative imperative" is a reasonable description, and it's also used for emphasis.

It seems to me less confusing to distinguish the な sentence ending particle ("(sentence end, mainly masc.) indicates emotion or emphasis") from the fact that the verb inflection for imperative-form, negative, plain-form happens to be the dictionary form of the verb with な appended. 走るな is to 走らない as 走れ is to 走る .

This is actually covered in Tae Kim's guide.
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/requests.html#part5

Go out in the real Japanese world. It's basically Tae kim's lessons mixed and match lol.

Just read and listen to real japanese, sometimes you'll get grammer you don't know, but most often it's things like: にとっては、対して　etc, which you can all figure out with rikaichan. Or if you want an explanation, http://jgram.org/ is useful...I don't know how reliable the sentences are, so I don't use them, but they are useful for understanding the concept.