You guys know those Kanji for words you didn't even understand in english, the ones pertaining to a specific kind of fabric or fish, the ones your sure you'l never use.

my personal vote goes to 迦　
Symbol for the sound "ka" when transliterating words from Sanskrit. その漢字を使うわけがないぜ！！！

吋・糎・粍・哩

Because of Buddhism, that actually gets more play than you might at first be inclined to think. As the most basic example, 釈迦.

朕

~J

woodwojr Wrote:朕

~J

Hahahaha

吾 for example. Tons of words in RtK which aren't really used, at all.

I've been warned of 吾, but the goku from dragon ball has it in its name.
And also: 吾輩は猫である。

Sorry to contradict you every time, it became an habit. ^_^

How many of you are mining for sentences to cover RTK?
I'm kinda actively using the missing kanji list from anki to search sentences. I know it is cheating, but it's been fun.
For some kanji I simply gave up to find a nice sentence for.

mentat_kgs Wrote:How many of you are mining for sentences to cover RTK?
I'm kinda actively using the missing kanji list from anki to search sentences. I know it is cheating, but it's been fun.
For some kanji I simply gave up to find a nice sentence for.

I do the exact same thing
Though it gets boring after a while and I go back to reading or something.

mentat_kgs Wrote:How many of you are mining for sentences to cover RTK?
I'm kinda actively using the missing kanji list from anki to search sentences. I know it is cheating, but it's been fun.
For some kanji I simply gave up to find a nice sentence for.

I sometimes supplement with interesting names that include a common reading.

Ex (幌): 亜幌 (あぽろ) f

i'm pretty sure i'll never use the kanji for decameron

joe_bevis Wrote:i'm pretty sure i'll never use the kanji for decameron

You may not use these, but I've seen all of them multiple times (used to indicate a part of the month): 上旬、中旬、下旬

woodwojr Wrote:朕

~J

朕はイツモその漢字を使ってるよ。朕は無敵な漢字を習い機械だぜ。

A lot of the kanji which you don't encounter often are in the Joyo list because they turn up in people and place's names.

uberstuber Wrote:

joe_bevis Wrote:i'm pretty sure i'll never use the kanji for decameron

You may not use these, but I've seen all of them multiple times (used to indicate a part of the month): 上旬、中旬、下旬

Yeah, people need to stop the decameron-bashing. It's getting kinda old.

The least likely one is the 常用 that's not in RTK1.

playadom Wrote:

uberstuber Wrote:

joe_bevis Wrote:i'm pretty sure i'll never use the kanji for decameron

You may not use these, but I've seen all of them multiple times (used to indicate a part of the month): 上旬、中旬、下旬

Yeah, people need to stop the decameron-bashing. It's getting kinda old.

Quite. Just because Heisig's keyword for something is uncommon in English, that doesn't mean the same is true in Japanese. I use and see 旬 all the time.
胆 is another great example of a very common character with an unusual keyword, and it gets even more bashing than decameron.

One reading for 旬 is しゅん and it's the period of time that a food (like a fruit) is most delicious, or when it is in season.

JimmySeal Wrote:胆 is another great example of a very common character with an unusual keyword, and it gets even more bashing than decameron.

Can you give an example or two?

大胆な　　daring, bold
落胆(する）　　　be disappointed

edit: I suppose "gall" might have been a closer RTK keyword, but gallbladder's more concrete to make stories with

The kanji I thought I'd never use seem to be the ones I keep running into. 圭 is one such character, that I've seen in a few names.

... I also thought that I wouldn't use 発 all that often. 恥ずかしいなー

JimmySeal Wrote:

playadom Wrote:

uberstuber Wrote:You may not use these, but I've seen all of them multiple times (used to indicate a part of the month): 上旬、中旬、下旬

Yeah, people need to stop the decameron-bashing. It's getting kinda old.

Quite. Just because Heisig's keyword for something is uncommon in English, that doesn't mean the same is true in Japanese. I use and see 旬 all the time.
胆 is another great example of a very common character with an unusual keyword, and it gets even more bashing than decameron.

I was not aware of how important 旬 is

'decameron' takes a lot of flack because it's the first in RTK where the keyword isn't a reasonably common English word. ('gall bladder' similarly is the target for "RTK order is way different from frequency order" attacks.)

My candidate is 匁 : so useless they're dropping it from the Jouyou list.

Do you know which others are being dropped? 5 is it?

Off topic: pm215 mentioned elsewhere a list (in an old dictionary) of vocab with the approved special readings of the kanji. (I assume it includes more than ateji.) Does anyone know if such a list exists online or elsewhere?

I will give another vote for monme 匁

[Katsuo]

Thora Wrote:Do you know which others are being dropped? 5 is it?

68.勺;270.銑;1027.匁;1584.錘;1923.脹;