sorry, may I ask a question?
I used the plugin to import all the sentences to anki. Now I study them on smart.fm (and when I say study I mean that I hear the audio, read the sentence, identify each word, make sure I understood it and write the sentence and the kanji readings in a notebook) and after doing all the process I go and unsuspend the card (or cards, as there are 2 for each sentence). But I noticed some of the sentences, such as this one http://smart.fm/sentences/585366 doesn't have an english translation there (or portuguese, my native...), and therefore I'm not sure what the sentence means. Ok, by reading it I can think "oh, I believe the sentence means this and this", but I'm not absolutely sure, and therefore, not confidend enough to study it (what if I'm completely wrong and learn wrong things?). Is it ok to just delete cards like this? Or I'll be missing vocabulary by doing so?

Well, the German one says 'August 3rd is not free' which is pretty close to what I think the Japanese says, 'August 3rd is not a holiday/day off.'

If you are studying just from sentences, and not the vocab, you are probably going to miss vocab anyhow as I believe some don't have sentences. As for missing some... With the number of words in the Japanese language, is it really going to kill you to miss a few on smart.fm ?

I wouldn't worry about it. Study it 'wrong' or delete it, either way will be corrected eventually in the future when you study from other things or start reading/watching/speaking etc.

Whoa. I swear the skull in Nukemarine's icon just yawned at me.

I wonder if there will be an effort to take the Words left over in KO (I.E. KO3) and get sentences from iknow? anyone?

i may or may not attempt that... the 1st 2 books are sufficient enough to jump into a mono dictionary... you may want to check one out after you complete them... I've been reading Japanese like nuts lately and i can saw jumping to a monodic is definitely something worth working towards... you only get so much of the meaning of the words using English... plus, if you stay in Japanese only, you'll be amazed at how fast that you will begin to read...

well, im only a month away from finishing book 2 and my reading is thru the roof. I just want to keep continuing with a systematic approach that works.

i totally agree... i only did 900 kanji and i can read like nuts too... look into getting this dictionary: http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blo...dictionary very easy to understand

EDIT: it may be more beneficial to use a monodic on book 3 instead of smart.fm

i actually have that book, and do use it from time to time.

How are you using for your studies? the reason I want to KO/IKNOW deal is sentences are ready to go and kanji are arragened well.

i'm just starting from the beginning and inputting it into anki (i realize that could take a couple of years hehe) but the thing is, the words in the dictionary self reference themselves as Khatzumoto said before (each word you put in includes so many words in the definitions themselves)... just by inputting some words also, i am noticing quickly that my speaking is starting to improve as well (my wife notices it too) the definitions are relatively easy and it helps connect all the grammar in my head a lot better than before...

This is great! I am using the Anki smart.fm importer. I can import the list just fine except this one:

811 - 900 : http://smart.fm/lists/114630

The importer just says that it cannot fetch at least one item, but the list seems to be ok... Can anyone help?

Greetings,
Andreas

you know what? i had the same problem.... here is the remedy: just look at the last created item on your list then enter the next word after that on the list by yourself. after you did that, run the import again and it will finish off that list no problem

I was just wondering if the smart.fm importer is fixed now? I was considering starting back to finish out the whole 2001 kanji next week... i didn't want to do it if I couldn't import everything into Anki though...

Yeah, it's working great.

really? sweet!

i was just wondering if anyone could possibly enlist to help on the sentence portion of the KO2001 1111-2001 that i am currently working on... just let me know if anyone wants to join in and collaborate with me... the list under progress is here: http://smart.fm/goals/186844/ it really takes an　お尻 of steel to enter all of the words in... heh

"help on the sentence portion"...you mean go in there and help find/add sentences for all the vocab you've entered?

zanzibar Wrote:"help on the sentence portion"...you mean go in there and help find/add sentences for all the vocab you've entered?

I would think that is what he means.

yeh that is exactly what I mean

just checking.

yeah, i could help out.
i haven't actually done edits on anyone else's list before. forgive my technical ignorance , but how do i get in there to add sentences?

cool, just tell me your smart.fm name so i can add you as a collaborator... after that, you can edit the list as if it were your own... just add Cerego sentences and try to make sure the spelling of the individual word matches the spelling of the word in the sentence... but I'm sure you know that already

smart.fm name is entropy_rules.

a few further questions:

--are we calling kanji or sets to avoid overlap, like with the KO1/2 lists?
--you have a deadline in mind for finishing this thing?

attempting to finish it by next week... you can just start from the beginning with the sentences... i'm still working on inputting all of the words (which seems to be the more difficult part) unless anyone else joins in at the moment, you can just work keep working on the sentences as you feel to do so. i'll add you to the collaborators... i did sentences for the 1st 3 words btw... it's a little different than the old system input method but i'm sure you will figure it out

well this vocab portion of the new KO2001 1111-2001 list is completed, looks like there is 2,351 new words with it (after taking out the duplicates)... i still would like more people to help with the sentence portion if at all possible... i wonder if we should divide the sentences up the same way we that we did the kanji/sentences last time... anyone that wants me to add them as a collaborator for the remaining sentences just let me know... here is the list again: http://smart.fm/goals/186844/

also, if anyone can let me know the kanji that are in RtK 1 but not in KO2001, I would like to add them to the list as well..

so how does ko2001/iknow work? i see nukemarine and other collaborators have done a lot. i visited smart.fm. i notice using iknow, i am given the kanji, sound, and sentence to study. is that all there is to it--pop open iknow and then go through it daily? or should i buy KO2001 from coscom and use KO2001 and iKnow together? so what's the deal? i'm aware that this has something to do with reading sentences and at the same time, building up vocabulary with other benefits...?

what i really want to ask is, how does ko2001/iknow work and how should i go about it?

Here was the basic idea: Grab the sentences from smart.fm using the Anki plug-in, learn them in Anki. The vocabulary selection came from KO2001 while the sentences that demonstrated the words came from smart.fm. At the time it was win/win.

However, recently some have organized the sentences from smart.fm based on the kanji in the sentence. This is probably a superior way to learn vocabulary as the sentences are not using kanji (and words using that kanji) that you haven't been introduced to first.