I noticed I got a report on 竣2062. I went back and looked at all the pieces that make up the kanji to see if I made an error in my story. I couldn't find anything so I just assumed someone hit report by accident. Strange to get someone making that mistake at this point but oh well. Then I noticed everyone with at least one star had a report. Someone hates this kanji!!! I remember this happening on a few other frames previously so there seem to be people who are not only offended by individual stories, but also by the kanji itself :/

[Katsuo]

Interesting that the person only marked those stories that had stars. Why not the others? They didn't "complete the job".

Joking aside, if someone wants to avoid sex-related stories then naming a primitive "streetwalker" may not be ideal for them.

If someone dislikes a primitive name for whatever reason, they should consider replacing it.

"Streetwalker" appears in 766, 1014, 1437 in RTK1 and 2059-62 in RTK3, but is only named as such in RTK3 (RTK1 calls it by the separate components "license & walking legs").

Etymologically, the right side of 唆, 俊, 酸, etc is called "tall and thin".

Myself, I've always called it "John Cleese"; not only is he tall and thin, but in the Monty Python "Ministry of Silly Walks" sketch it's Cleese who hands out licenses for walking legs.

Edit: clarified some sentences.

That someone must have a huge... ego...

I mean the nerve of reporting a story just because... it contains... material that can be construed as... "suggestive."

Wait... They reported it just because it had a primitive they didn't like? Now that's just insane.

Yeah, the "dirty stories" guys jumped all over this one.... The only thing that would've made it simpler... naming the keyword "happy ending" instead of "complete a job."

But seriously, it is strange that bodhisamaya's story is starred, as there's no sexual references.. but I think that maybe it's because it doesn't use the "streetwalker" primitive in the story.

Katsuo Wrote:Myself, I've always called it "John Cleese"; not only is he tall and thin, but in the Monty Python "Ministry of Silly Walks" sketch it's Cleese who hands out licenses for walking legs.

Let's have more like this pls! As clever and creative as the game/anime/manga stories were, the references were unfortunately unfamiliar to me. A few Monty Python-type ones (or even Blackadder?) would have been a treat.

btw Statsuo, are you actually Mr Heisig?

[Katsuo]

Thora Wrote:btw Statsuo, are you actually Mr Heisig?

Noooooo. I just found a photo of Mr. Heisig online. It's conclusive.

Katsuo Wrote:Noooooo. I just found a photo of Mr. Heisig online. It's conclusive.

Woaaah, I just searched, he looks just like I pictured him :o

Could it be that someone's taking my suggestions for a kid-friendly solution to heart? If so, I wish them good luck. No need to get upset over a single report, when it's just a means to reach a certain goal, that of reaching out to a wider public.

Also, since it's so easy and common to change the names given to primitives or keywords, I don't see any objection to purging out Heisig's own choices, which were constructed with an adult public in mind. "Sitting cross-legged" instead of "crotch", "John Cleese" for "streetwalker", perfectly ok to create stories from that. (Caveat: Monty Python isn't shy of some dirty pants humor.)

And yes, they should report the non-starred as well. Unless someone unknown to me added a "Hide stories with less than x stars" feature. That would be a first.

[ファブリス]

Wonderful image there, Katsuo. Wish I had thought about it back then. I'm using the image of a "sandwich man". Which is a kind of advertising on the street, so I suppose it requires some kind of license.

woelpad Wrote:Could it be that someone's taking my suggestions for a kid-friendly solution to heart? If so, I wish them good luck. No need to get upset over a single report, when it's just a means to reach a certain goal, that of reaching out to a wider public.

Interesting... don't get the point... still interesting though...

Let's just report them all and let god sort them out.

(interestingly, doesn't Heisig look a bit like a Benny Hinn type televangelist in that photo? He looks like he's about to lecture us on the naughtiness of crotches and streetwalkers. Haha)

woelpad Wrote:Could it be that someone's taking my suggestions for a kid-friendly solution to heart? If so, I wish them good luck. No need to get upset over a single report, when it's just a means to reach a certain goal, that of reaching out to a wider public.

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I don't think RTK would work for kids under a certain age as one of the strengths of the system is drawing on life experience. Once a kid has reached an age where he has a little life experience, say 13, there is nothing on this site he/she has not seen a thousand times before.

I have a two year old in Japan and I have been trying to think of a way to use insights from RTK to help him maybe around age 5. His mother is Brazilian Nisei and speaks only Portuguese at home so he will have added challenges. He will not have his own life experiences but kids love to watch the same Disney type movies over and over again and can draw on those plots. I have begun to change the order of the Heisig keywords and give them names from Disney/comic book characters. 水 is the Little Mermaid, 木 is pinnochio, 乙 is Captain Hook, 女 Cinderella...and so on. I am lumping all the kanji with the same radical together at the end of the list of 3,000+ (I am also adding some not here) so it can be an un-interrupted stream of creativity for the stories.

@bodhisamaya

I agree with your post entirely.

However, a lot of effort has gone into attempts to protect hypothetical pre-teen children from accessing this site's "naughty" bits. I don't see how a kid could be mature enough to read, write, and use stories, but at the same time be so naive as to be negatively influenced by stories. I agree that it may be possible to use the general Heisig concept to teach a young child as you plan on doing with a Disney system, but the idea of little kids actually properly using a site like this on their own accord is nearly ridiculous to me.

My guess is that the only people who would use that greasemonkey thing would be timid adults and perhaps a very small handful of child prodigies (numbering in single digits) who happen to have protective parents.

Whether or not you're ok with suggestive stories at any age depends on your upbringing, peers, religion, etc. I met a 23 year old that wouldn't say the word "sex" and covered her ears if she heard anything mildly suggestive. There could be some teens or young adults that don't want to see naughty stories. But I think most people that would be concerned with it would be adults worrying about protecting kids.

I never understood why things dealing with sex, which creates life, are considered immoral and violence, which takes life, is not. The central theme to almost all entertainment geared towards children is killing or mutilating. Those committing these acts of violence are typically children or animals. People went crazy when Janet Jackson exposed a nipple at the Super Bowl (an event mimicking war-fare) a few years ago. The very part of human anatomy that once nourished those who are to be harmed by seeing it now.
It's a bass ackwards world.

The sex worse than violence thing is more or less only an issue in the USA (and possibly the UK) afaik. In Sweden you can have full frontal nudity in a PG rated film without problems. We don't have any word censoring either which is nice I guess.