Over?

OVER?

Oh, no my friend... It's just begun....


8 years ago...

They just showed the people in 小浜市 going crazy for Obama on CNN :-)
The world seems pretty happy after our brain farts the last two elections.

bodhisamaya Wrote:They just showed the people in 小浜市 going crazy for Obama on CNN :-)
The world seems pretty happy after our brain farts the last two elections.

Yeah, you did us proud this time

It weren't all victories. Some very bad stuff got passed as well here in FL.

Several states including Florida banned same sex marriage. Why do they waste time and money on things like that? Where in Florida? My ex-wife lives in Naples.

samesong Wrote:Those of you outside of the US, how are you following the election? I'm in good ol' Jay-pan (as my relatives from Alabama would call it), so I'm just constantly refreshing Google News

I know that there is some Obama-guy and some other guy..
That's pretty much all I know about the US elections..
I'm not really interested in politics. Probably that's why the most I know about the politicians is what I hear about their screw ups and scandals in the news.. They should be people of integrity but still certain people give heaps of reasons to doubt their overall moral with the way they act.
This is only for my own country though. I don't know anything about the politics of any foreign countries!

Hmm.. Obama sounds like a funny name..

But hey! Let me know who won! Okay! ^^/
Hope it's someone of whom we don't have to be glad of getting rid of in the next elections!


I'm off to sleep!
I shouldn't try to post off-topic messages to political threads in the middle of the night..
This is the outcome!

bodhisamaya Wrote:Several states including Florida banned same sex marriage. Why do they waste time and money on things like that? Where in Florida? My ex-wife lives in Naples.

Bout 20 miles south of Tampa, in a place I call "the middle of nowhere."

The thing is... that amendment didn't just banned same sex marriage. Same sex marriage was already illegal in Florida.

"...No other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized..."

That's the kicker. This amendment, due to it's general ambiguity, bans civil unions as well.

I would assume most people who voted for it, didn't really know what they were voting on.

Edit: Then again, this is a "red state."

Quote:Hmm.. Obama sounds like a funny name..

Lol, I think 田中 sounds funnier.

I really can't stand how Prop 8 passed in California... I've always seen Californians as the... how do you say it... openminded and modern people of America, not saying such people aren't present in other parts of the US... but I really can't understand how the Californians I respected so much could be so... uncivilized.

Yeah I find that shocking for California as well. I sure most of these Amendments, involving unions, aren't constitutional.

"I'm not really interested in politics. Probably that's why the most I know about the politicians is what I hear about their screw ups and scandals in the news.. They should be people of integrity but still certain people give heaps of reasons to doubt their overall moral with the way they act."


I don't think political figures are any more corrupt than the average person. Their lives are put up to a microscope. How many people are there that don't have skeletons in their closet or that could withstand public scrutiny. If people looked at my past...well, there is no way I could win office!

Yeah, this constant negativity that's thrown at us makes me cynical toward most government politics. It just seems like the people who are in the position to make the most for the world are only really concerned about themselves.

Though highly unpopular as a direct result of it, I thought Jimmy Carter was someone who cared more about the public good than personal ambition.

Wow, didn't see that coming. Tabberoth summerizes my thoughts exactly.

It isn't that strange after all. Probably their plans include "Terminating" any non-heterosexual lifeform...

bodhisamaya Wrote:I don't think political figures are any more corrupt than the average person. Their lives are put up to a microscope. How many people are there that don't have skeletons in their closet or that could withstand public scrutiny. If people looked at my past...well, there is no way I could win office!

That is very true. But still in a sense they aren't average people.
I believe that as their position makes them leaders and role models to others, they should be held to a much higher standard in terms of morals, ethics, and integrity than any average person.

This is just what I believe though.

Well.. I guess I can't really complain if I don't participate in trying to get the right people up there. But..

Democracy only works if the public educates themselves. Otherwise our political system is run by money not "the people". People are just too lazy to look at the facts and so are easily misled by their emotions.

Ten years ago Hawaii tried to become the first state to legalize same sex marriage. Everyone in Hawaii is a minority which makes us very tolerant I think. Before the media blitz started it had almost a 70% approval among the voters. Then the Mormans came in and spent $1 million on TV ads portaying gays as child molestors. That was a huge amount of money back then in a small market. It was voted down by an overwhelming margin.

Ron Paul on the right and Dennis Kuccinich on the left are both over the top as far as integrity goes but neither will ever succeed in their presidential bids because they can not be bought by special interests.

Here in Fl there were ads that made it literally seems as though someone were physically attacking marriage. It was laughable. But it worked.