TSUTSU

As is in 包む. Or better. に包まれた

I have an audio recording where the speaker sounds as if he's saying につまれた. It's like he skipped and entire syllable.

It's pronounced... tsutsumu. Although the u vowel in Japanese becomes devocalized very easily so you might hear it as tstsumu/tstsmu depending on the speaker.

Maybe the recording is saying 積む（つむ）, which has a somewhat similar meaning in some usages?

Perhaps, there are points where the books says ゆ　but he says い　for 行.

I just checked the meaning of 積む. It was not what he intented. This is driving me nuts.

Is it possible that when read fast　に包む　can be pronounced にっつむ.

Edit:

Okay, now after listening to it for the umpteenth time it sounds like Nit-tsumareta which I guess is what you were saying when you put "tstsumu."

This kind of thing is why I like to watch J stuff with the script. I never put anything in my SRS without written confirmation. I would if something was totally obvious, but if it's that obvious, I already know it and don't need to put it in.

Yeah. It was written. It just didn't sound like what was written there. I'm not adding this to the SRS just yet (splicing an mp3 is not fun). I was just shadowing a Soseki story.

The reader makes many small changes, like with 行, so I was wondering if there were some sort of alternate pronunciation.

What's the context? に is commonly placed before 包む to show what something is wrapped in.

Unless I'm mistaken, I think 包む can also be pronounced くるむ. I guess it depends on the context.

nac_est Wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, I think 包む can also be pronounced くるむ. I guess it depends on the context.

Correct, looking them up on Sanseido shows that the meaning is different though, tsutsumu seems to have a broader meaning.

samesong Wrote:What's the context? に is commonly placed before 包む to show what something is wrapped in.

大きな潤いある眼で、長い睫に包まれた中は、ただ一面に真っ黒であった。

Mp3 can be found here.

http://speaking-japanese.com/breaking/lite_01.html

It's at around 1分2０.

I can hear the つつ part (but maybe that's because I know it's supposed to be there). It sounds like the vowel of the first syllable isn't voiced, so it comes out more as "tstsu".

You heard correctly, kind of =). He is in fact saying つ twice, but the first time he says it, the う isn't voiced. It's kind of like how you say です and it comes out sounding like 'Dess'.

edit -- albion beat me to it!

Thanks guys