I have a question that I haven't seen answered yet. Does the iKnow website work on mobile phones? I would be willing to pay for internet service on my palm phone if that is the case.

Thanks in advance,

jon

not as of yet... it does work on Japanese cellphones though... i hope they build an iphone app for iKnow in the near future... you could always just use Anki on an iphone until then though and import iKnow's content to it..

Thanks for the reply Hashiriya. It is a little disappointing. I can upload it on my palm using my regular SRS software (Twinkle), but I wouldn't be able to use the audio and visual (pictures) so I will try using it online for the time being.

Thanks,

Jon

hey i got this comment on my list about brainspeed from the iKnow peeps... thought i would share it with you guys:

"hey guys, brainspeed now functions a little differently. for japanese and chinese courses, if you choose full mode, you will get a random selection of either kanji or romaji to match against the meanings.

i know that’s not as good as being able to set exactly what you want to study, but it’s an improvement over before. with the next release, we’ll try to make another small improvement…"

So nobody knows how many unique kanji are in Core 2000? Somebody do me a favour and go through lowkey/zort's iKnow deck in Anki, grading it card by card until they're all 'seen' and you can check the stats for me.

nest0r Wrote:So nobody knows how many unique kanji are in Core 2000? Somebody do me a favour and go through lowkey/zort's iKnow deck in Anki, grading it card by card until they're all 'seen' and you can check the stats for me.

1062 total unique kanji.
Jouyou: 1016 of 1945 (52.2%).
Jinmeiyou: 5 of 287 (1.7%).
41 non-jouyou kanji.
Jouyou levels:
Grade 1: 76 of 80 (95.0%).
Grade 2: 150 of 160 (93.8%).
Grade 3: 183 of 200 (91.5%).
Grade 4: 152 of 200 (76.0%).
Grade 5: 134 of 185 (72.4%).
Grade 6: 102 of 181 (56.4%).
JuniorHS: 219 of 939 (23.3%).

Thank you very much. Hmm, it's as I thought--the list really does tie in well to Kanji Odyssey's.

[Katsuo]

cracky Wrote:1062 total unique kanji.
Jouyou: 1016 of 1945 (52.2%).

In case anyone's interested, here are the equivalent figures for the present total of 6,000 iKnow sentences:
1648 total unique kanji.
Jouyou: 1523 of 1945 (78.3%)

i just wanted to post some feedback on my RtK iKnow lists.. they seem to be working great for me, I've completed 400 kanji via iKnow and i have perfect memory of them for the time being... I can walk up to my kanji poster now and start naming keywords for them instantly without much thinking at all... what i did was this: i i studied the kanji under kanji.koohii.com's "study" section reading through various user created stories... i picked out the stories i liked and i wrote each kanji out 3 times thinking about the stories... then i created RtK iKnow lists based on the keywords (see my previous post for the links) i set the lists to goal mode and worked through them going back to the study section to review stories when i needed too. it's all working great so far, i'll keep continuing until i get through the 1st book...

Katsuo Wrote:

cracky Wrote:1062 total unique kanji.
Jouyou: 1016 of 1945 (52.2%).

In case anyone's interested, here are the equivalent figures for the present total of 6,000 iKnow sentences:
1648 total unique kanji.
Jouyou: 1523 of 1945 (78.3%)

Ha, I was hoping you'd show up with your mad list skillz. I'm disappointed, I was hoping I could cover all the readings with iKnow. It's not a big deal, it just would have been nice to complete the set up front and incidentally acquire frequent, contextualized vocabulary at the same time.

Ah--just occurred to me, between Anki's stats (show missing kanji or whatever), KO's Level 3 chart (sans readings), and iKnow's lists and impending 10k release, it shouldn't be too hard to gather any kanji that slip through the cracks. I hope. Or maybe Coscom will just try and integrate Level 3 with iKnow officially via Nukemarine's email, though I'm not sure they'd be happy without a model to monetize their efforts.

You have to take it with a grain of salt. It's not much should you add these to Anki to go through and convert some of the Kana words to Kanji (リンゴ　or オオカミ for example) which means higher numbers. It probably would not be much.

In addition, assuming you're reading a lot of outside material (which learning the words from iKnow or KO should help in this process), then you're getting passive training in words that are not on this list (or any list likely). If you're really desperate, on your own (or a group effort) get a KiC list together in iKnow or from Tokogu list or enter the sentences from KiC. That should cover the Jouyou.

I've been trying to make a list, but I've run into a bit of a problem with sentences.

I mistakenly added the wrong audio to a sentence, but replaced it now. But I've found I have that incorrect sentence in the list of sentences, repeated 6 times. It doesn't seem to be attached to any items (there's no bolded items on any of them), just the same sentence 6 times.

Is there any way to delete these?

wow! apparently iKnow is coming to the iPhone soon! check here: http://www.iknow.co.jp/user_forum/56/top...ost_574518

Hashiriya Wrote:wow! apparently iKnow is coming to the iPhone soon! check here: http://www.iknow.co.jp/user_forum/56/top...ost_574518

Um, not exactly. They said the API is in place, but the iPhone version isn't spec'd out yet... In other words, they haven't even started planning it.

However!

Also on there is a link to technohippy.net's iknow3g that will let you study your items on a 3G mobile device.

Sadly, the audio doesn't work on my Android phone. However, the existing of an API makes me very hopeful... I'm considering writing an app myself now!

Edit: Unfortunately, the API doesn't yet have the call to change the study status of items, so you can only review from there... You can't progress. Bummer. Also, it doesn't seem to care what list things come from (so long as you're enrolled in it), so you can't choose to just study an old list.

I was at Borders bookstore some time ago and happened to come across a book about using iKnow to study Japanese!

In fact they have it in a variety of languages:
http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/r...?WRD=iknow

chamcham Wrote:I was at Borders bookstore some time ago and happened to come across a book about using iKnow to study Japanese!

In fact they have it in a variety of languages:
http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/r...?WRD=iknow

I am pretty sure they are not the same thing. I believe they are named similarly but are products that are produced by two different companies.

Well it talks about how iKnow works on the iphone and ipod touch.
The books are all from December 2008.

So I'm pretty sure it's the same.

I just looked at the living language website. The iKnow Japanese transcripts are available there for free. Here is the website: http://www.randomhouse.com/livinglanguag...DFs_r2.pdf

It doesn't have the same content as the iknow.co.jp website.

chamcham Wrote:Well it talks about how iKnow works on the iphone and ipod touch.
The books are all from December 2008.

So I'm pretty sure it's the same.

That proves it's not the same. iKnow does -not- work on the iPhone or iPod Touch yet. It's something they plan to work on in the future.

I must say that using iKnow's list on Anki in the last month has been very enjoyable lately. I like the time boxing, the stats, the ability to change my sentences (kanjify a few words), testing dictation and reading seperately, testing ALL my due cards without wading through 5 lists, having a reasonable faith in the SRS, etc.

The group support aspect of iKnow though I do miss. The act of playing catch-up to Hashiriya and Cracky encouraged me to find a great pace.

iKnow is still great, and is a perfect choice for many people. I can only hope that it's application makes the advancements in the next 18 months that Anki has made in the last 18 months.

I'll still be using it as a great way to share content.

So Nukemarine, you've stopped using iKnow now and only use Anki?

i think i finally have to agree...iknow does start to get annoying sometimes during long study sessions... the daa-dum sounds are starting to unnerve me haha i really do love it's goal mode though but at the same time i do think a program like anki is necessary for long term memory... iknow is certainly good for quick-sticking things into your head though... i still enjoy my RtK lists that i have made on there... i might make the jump to anki when i begin the kanji odyssey lists...

EDIT: i just found out you can turn off the sound effects in the settings menu >_< that helped a ton

Tobberoth Wrote:So Nukemarine, you've stopped using iKnow now and only use Anki?

Well, more like Anki and RevTK. I'm doing RTK on here, Tae Kim sentences on Anki, and iKnow items on Anki.

However, looking at a reply on the developer's forum for iKnow, they are still looking at a way for 3rd party software to view item statistics and manipulate scheduling data. With that, there can be a way to keep iKnow and Anki talking to each other with regards to your progress.

Current wild idea: Tanuki's list has a nice set-up for Japanese to Japanese lists on iKnow (Japanese word, very simple Japanese definition). Maybe there's a way to import it to iKnow creating 15 lists of 500 words.

Speaking of which, anyone know an easy way to match up words on Tanuki spreadsheet with words on an iKnow spreadsheet so that the Japanese definitions can be put on the iKnow spreadsheet? I like the idea of going completely Japanese when I start up Core 6000.

i think these forums are full of "wild ideas" now haha... at least we are trying to be creative

Nukemarine Wrote:I must say that using iKnow's list on Anki in the last month has been very enjoyable lately. I like the time boxing, the stats, the ability to change my sentences (kanjify a few words), testing dictation and reading seperately, testing ALL my due cards without wading through 5 lists, having a reasonable faith in the SRS, etc.

I haven't begun starting to import iKnow sentences into Anki in the interest of finishing RTK1 first. However, I'm rapidly approaching the time when I will. You mention that Anki allows you to test diction and reading. Do you use the import from iKnow plugin to achieve this functionality?